GATLIN never ever on 110m/h?...

[79.]

We all seem to have forgotten he was a 13"45
(more or less) hurdler two years ago.
Did anyone here ever watch him run a 110m/h?
Can he still become a top hurdler?

[slowcoach]

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He had plenty of options. When he became "Worlds' Fastest Human", some of those options became less important. I can't see him going back to the highs.

[tafnut]

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We make every sprinter on our team that has the least bit of flexibility and coordination try the hurdles. Some balk until I explain that some of the best sprinters in the world started as hurdlers, Harrison Dillard, Carl Lewis, now Justin Gatlin. They can always make the switch from hurdles to flat later, but a late switch from flat to hurdles is a teensy bit harder.

[79.]

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Is Terrence TRAMMELL the most versatile 100m/
110m/h sprinter nowadays?
(After his fantastic 6"45, I imagined him as a
sub-10"00 sprinter...)

[Jon]

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I think it was Tom Borish whom I was speaking to about Gatlin's hurdling. Tom had seen Gatlin hurdle and said that it was basically his pure speed that got him through the race so fast - not much to be desired in the way of technique, apparently. Is that right, Tom?

[Jon]

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>Is Terrence TRAMMELL the most versatile 100m/110m/h sprinter nowadays?



Interesting one. We should start a list of the top combined times of sprinters/hurdlers. A few to start the ball rolling:

Terrence Trammell: 10.04 + 13.09 = 23.13
Mark McKoy: 10.08 + 13.08 = 23.16
Renaldo Nehemiah: 10.24 + 12.93 = 23.17
Colin Jackson: 10.29 + 12.91 = 23.20
Tony Dees: 10.15 + 13.05 = 23.20
Justin Gatlin: 9.85 + 13.41 = 23.26
Greg Foster: 10.28 + 13.03 = 23.31
Allen Johnson: 10.41 + 12.92 = 23.33


I wonder when we will see the first sub-23 sprinter/hurdler....!

[rosa saks]

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Willie Gault 9.95w + 13.26?

Harrison Dillard?

HARRISON DILLARD?????

Trammell vs Gatlin in a Treasure of the Sierra Madre showdown??????

[Jon]

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>Willie Gault 9.95w + 13.26?



Good one. He'd closely follow AJ on the list with a combined (legal) time of 23.36.

His 9.95 was with a 8.9 wind (!!!!!!!!) and is therefore not a true reflection of his ability. Then again, his official best (10.10) was at altitude at with 1.9m/s of wind! His best ever run, therefore, must have been his 10.17 into -0.7m/s in 1983.

[Jon]

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>Trammell vs Gatlin in a Treasure of the Sierra Madre showdown??????



In a head to head of both events, Gatlin would get whooped in the hurdles and Trammell would get whooped in the 100m. They'd be closely matched in the 60m, though.

Trammell and McKoy appear to be the most closely matched (and quickest) of the hurdler/sprinters. If only they were around at the same time, they could have had some intriguing battles over the 100m, 110mH, 60m and 60mH. They are more or less even with each other across all of the sprinting and hurdling events.

[eldrick]

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mckoy had a 13.08 PB ??

win an OG off that ?

shit,

forgot how bad the low, was, that OG


suppose these mike weir's have to pop up now & then...

[Jon]

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>mckoy had a 13.08 PB ??
win an OG off that ?
shit,
forgot how bad the
>low, was, that OG
suppose these mike weir's have to pop up now & then...



Colin Jackson was the big favourite and had the two fastest times of that year. He had a shocking race in the final (bumped into a hurdle or two, getting completely thrown off balance). The only guy Jackson ended up beating in that race was Britain's Hughie Teape (who?? exactly).

It actually wasn't a bad showing for the Brits, as all three made the final. Weirdly though, 8th-placer Hughie Teape was the most pleased of the lot after the race because he was such a rank-outsider yet still made the final. Tony Jarrett was gutted to miss out on a medal, after being awarded the exact same time as 3rd placer Pierce. Jackson was gutted for having one of the worst races of his career when he was the favourite and near his peak.

Possibly Jackson's best ever shot at Olympic gold.

[Per Andersen]

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McKoy slow winning time? What are you talking about. His 13.12 was the second fastest in Olympic history and he ran it twice in Barcelona, once into a wind + that he handled Jackson twice. Jackson just couln't deliver the goods when he was supposed to.

[Jon]

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>McKoy slow winning time?




As much as I love to show up Eldrick, that's not quite what he said.

His point was that McKoy's PB (13.08) was slow for an Olympic Gold medal winner. Look over previous winners (Xiang 12.91, Garcier 13.00, Allen 12.92, Kingdom 12.92, etc...) and Eldrick is correct.

But I agree with what you say - his 13.12 in Barcelona was still a very respectable time, regardless what his PB was.

[Charlie]

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Colin Jackson was the big favourite and had the two fastest
>times of that year. He had a shocking race in the final (bumped into a hurdle
>or two, getting completely thrown off balance). The only guy Jackson ended up
>beating in that race was Britain's Hughie Teape (who?? exactly).

It actually
>wasn't a bad showing for the Brits, as all three made the final. Weirdly
>though, 8th-placer Hughie Teape was the most pleased of the lot after the race
>because he was such a rank-outsider yet still made the final. Tony Jarrett was
>gutted to miss out on a medal, after being awarded the exact same time as 3rd
>placer Pierce. Jackson was gutted for having one of the worst races of his
>career when he was the favourite and near his peak.

Possibly Jackson's best
>ever shot at Olympic gold.

Colin Jackson did not really have a 'shocker' in the final - he strained an abductor muscle in the second round (13.57) and was unable to hurdle effectively after that. He knew after his semi final that he would not be a factor in the final.

Shame - his 13.10 in the opening round was incredible, he jogged the last 10 metres.

[The King]

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AJ at 10.41??? For me that is quite shocking, I mean why doesn't have a proper go at the 100m he could probably get close to 10.15. Perhaps if ran a serious 100m in 1996 (when, for me, he was in his best shape ever) he could have gone close to 10.10, maybe even lower.