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**paulthefan** · 03-30-2005, 05:00 PM

Re: vertical jumps

.. more info on the Wilt measuring.....He did not think it necessary to get into athletic wear as he was quite mobile in his dance-floor attire. Word in the know has it that when he was asked to perform the vertical test, he put down his Martini glass and cigar loosened his scarf/tie and with his two size-18 loafers planted firmly on the thick shag rug propelled himself to the measured height. He quickly recovered his drink and smoke and went on with the interview. ....

... you may recall that when these events first began to raise attention in the late 80s some were skeptical that anyone would be wearing a leisure suit and suede leather loafers in 1962... such doubts are unwarranted, hypercritical and shamefully pedantic as everyone that knew Wilt knew him to be a man of panache, virve and creative instint, a trendsetter of the rarest caliber.

>>I hate to burst the bubble but that is really not very impressive..
>Wilt
>Chamberlain had a measured vertical at the annual Sporting News Clinic
>in 1962
>at 68.25 inches and he did so wearing a leisure suit and suede
>leather loafers.

Musta bin the National Enquirer clinic...

**NetCoach** · 03-30-2005, 05:30 PM

Re: vertical jumps

Ok, watched the Globetrotter video. Do any of you know what a vertical jump is??? That isn't a vertical jump! To do a vertical jump you must stand, not run, and jump straight up! That is why they don't let you jump off two feet in the high Jump. There are 5' nothing gymnasts that can bounce over a 8 foot bar.

That is not a vertical jump.

**mrbowie** · 03-30-2005, 05:42 PM

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You're all wet: Bill Braskey had a verticle of 7'2" wearing a lumberjack outfit and boots.

**paulthefan** · 03-30-2005, 05:59 PM

Re: vertical jumps

Bill and Wilt were also on Saturday night live with Jake Elwood and his brother (comprising the Blues Brothers) ... and in leisure suits they performed a number of tumbling routines on a flashing well lite dance floor to the sounds of Stayin-alive"... there where staging bars for ceiling lights and Wilt performed a backward summersault that catapulted him up to the 16ft rafters... this is well documented in the Saturdaynightlive archives chapter titled
"SNL, The 70s: Whether your a brother or whether your a mother your stayinalive"

>You're all wet: Bill Braskey had a verticle of 7'2" wearing a lumberjack
>outfit and boots.

**tafnut** · 03-30-2005, 06:18 PM

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>Ok, watched the Globetrotter video. Do any of you know what a vertical jump>is??? That isn't a vertical jump! To do a vertical jump you must stand, not>run, and jump straight up! That is why they don't let you jump off two feet in
>the high Jump. There are 5' nothing gymnasts that can bounce over a 8 foot>bar.

>>That is not a vertical jump.<<

First of all - gymnasts jump off spring-loaded floors

Second - no high jumper can jump higher off two feet than one

Third - a vertical leap is a vertical leap. MY HS measures whatever you wish, which is why the trained HJers run and jump off one foot. Why on earth would you wish to be measured from a position WORSE than your best? The best dunks in BB, the best spikes in VB and the best HJ's in track come off one foot for a reason.

**hjumper33** · 03-30-2005, 06:19 PM

Re: vertical jumps

Are you guys talking about Bill Brasky? He was a two ton mountain man who could palm a medicine ball. Brasky ranked 18th in the AP college football poll. His family crest is a picture of a barracuda eating neil armstrong.

Haha sorry couldnt resist. Thats my alltime favorite snl skit.

**Dietmar239** · 03-30-2005, 06:20 PM

Re: vertical jumps

You should have seen me a month ago running from a pit bull that broke his chain. Pure vertical lift! Brummel eat your heart out.

**NetCoach** · 03-30-2005, 06:29 PM

Re: vertical jumps

For Tafnut.

I'm amazed that you do not know what a vertical jump is. They measure this for football\basketball\whatever from a standing position. That is standard. When you read about people's vertical, it is NOT from a running start, or it is NOT a vertical jump!

Gymnast can jump 8' WITHOUT the floor thank you. We had one in college do it for us once in practice on a dare. Straight on, they do a couple of flips, and then plant a big one two footed over the bar.

If you want to say how high someone can jump, period, then you are right. But don't call it a vertical jump unless it is.

tafnut - "The best dunks in BB, the best spikes in VB and the best HJ's in track come off one foot for a reason."

Then why is the guy in the twelve foot dunk jumping off TWO feet!!!

**hjumper33** · 03-30-2005, 07:00 PM

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NetCoach,
If you look at the other post, youll see that tafnut refuses to believe that anyone could jump higher off two feet with a run-up than off one. I believe there are different types of jumpers, he believe the globetrotter dunker shoud be a 8 ft + high jumper.

**NetCoach** · 03-30-2005, 07:18 PM

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"NetCoach,
If you look at the other post, youll see that tafnut refuses to believe that anyone could jump higher off two feet with a run-up than off one. I believe there are different types of jumpers, he believe the globetrotter dunker shoud be a 8 ft + high jumper."

Gee! I'm sorry. Didn't mean to make fun of him! ; )

**tafnut** · 03-30-2005, 07:29 PM

Re: vertical jumps

Totally not buying the idea that some gymnast guy had 8' of empty space below him, any more than you believe the Globetrotter guy COULD be an 8' HJer (what I did say was that it would be hard to belive he could not be trained to be an 8' HJer with that kind of ups). Every single person I have ever tested for 'vertical jump' jumped higher when they ran and jumped off one foot. For myself it's a 6" differential. As for what the definition of a vertical jump is, I am well aware that many (most?) people think it means a standing two-footed jump, but that most definitely does NOT measure their capability to jump, as my 6" differential demonstrates.

**Grasshopper** · 03-30-2005, 07:40 PM

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Check out this clip for Ato Boldon's web-site. It's obviously not a true measurement of his "vertical", but impressive none-the-less. I'd guess that this is the type of thing that a lot of people are refering to when they talk about having a 50" vertical.

"http://www.atoboldon.com/video/vertical.ram"

**NetCoach** · 03-30-2005, 07:51 PM

Re: vertical jumps

1) Yes, people can jump higher off a run. (duh)
2) Vertical jump measures the ability to jump off of two feet, not one. The run is eliminated to decrease outside variables. It is a measure of leg explosiveness.
3) There are plenty of great BB dunkers that were average at best high jumpers. Were they ALL bad technique?

Jumping off one foot and jumping off two feet are fundamentally different. One is muscle, the other is more like a pole vault technique. The gymnast combines both techniques and is why they get such incredible lift.

**paulthefan** · 03-30-2005, 08:22 PM

Re: vertical jumps

the Bolden clip is informative.. shows that using a mere vertical jump of under 30something inches one can get himself up onto a 60inch box..... just use some momentum... and get those feet up.

**cullman** · 03-30-2005, 08:30 PM

Re: vertical jumps

The NFL measures vertical jump like so:

http://www.sportznutz.com/nfl/draft/combine.htm

The best vertical according to urban legend was 5'10" Cuban volleyballer, Diego Lapera's 53+".

To give you an idea as to how the 12' dunk is not the best indicator of vertical jumping ability, the previous record was held by Chicago Bulls forward/center, Antonio Davis who is not exactly famous for his vertical.

cman

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