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Wasn't Lingren's 27;11 six mile in 1965 as a junior?
If so, isn't the 10,000m conversion superior to Rupp's 28;15?
If so, isn't the 10,000m conversion superior to Rupp's 28;15?
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Re: Rupp vs Lindgren
who cares--a stellar run by Rupp tonight.
There's always going to be some nattering nabob of negativism who'll try to diminish one's accomplishment vs. what someone did forty years ago.
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Re: Rupp vs Lindgren
Rupp unofficially passed 6 miles in 27:11 as well, though closed in a 64. If he would have been racing a 6-miler, one could assume he could have run closer to 27:09 for 6 miles.
In my opinion, Rupp's 28:15 is superior.Comment
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Re: Rupp vs Lindgren
My post has nothing to do with diminishing Rupp's performance, nor is it negative.
Traditionally, TFN has noted conversions, eg Lindgren's 1966 3-mile is converted to 13;21 on the college 5000 list.
If you are offended, do not read it or bother with pettey posts.
Rupp was 27;11 at 9600 meters, which is short of six miles.Comment
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Re: Rupp vs Lindgren
We call Lindgren's mark a 28:09.6Comment
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>My post has nothing to do with diminishing Rupp's performance, nor is it
>negative.
If you are offended,
>do not read it or bother with pettey posts.
About 40 years ago, there used to be a "Ed Gee" who seemed to be slightly better than you are when it comes to making metric to mile conversions.
You're good, Mr. Gee, but this other Ed Gee ... I knew Ed Gee, we fought together in Korea, we had many great metric/mile conversion discussions together, we watched each other grow old gracefully ...
sir, you're no Ed Gee.Comment
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Re: Rupp vs Lindgren
It was a great moment when Gerry Lindgren and (my favorite) Billy Mills set a new world record in the 6-mile run at the AAU championships in San Diego in June 1965. Forty years ago...Comment
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Re: Rupp vs Lindgren
Does "twittering debutante" think he's funny with his insults to "ed gee"? I know neither person, but "T.D." comes across as annoying and obnoxious - and as Garry's statistical clarification makes clear, just plain wrong. Rupp did a great job, and I'm delighted for Oregon and Hayward Field (the only Olympic Trials I've attended have been the three held there), but Lindgren's performance was superior. Simple as that.Comment
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>I know neither person
Not that hard to figure out.Comment
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Re: Rupp vs Lindgren
and as Garry's statistical clarification makes clear, just plain
>wrong.
Wrong about what, specifically? Care to expound on that?
I'm older than most of the people who post on here, but I have no compunction in saying an AJR is an AJR. I feel no need to quantify Rupp's achievement by pointing out someone raced another fast race at another distance 40 years ago. Nor do I feel the need to mention Deerfoot probably ran faster 90 years ago, if one takes into account he was running in sandals.
Feeling an immediate need, as Mr. Gee apparently felt, to come on here moments after Rupp crossed the line to minimize his accomplishment under the guise of a statistical query is annoying and obnoxious, in my opinion. If you're old enough to know Lindgren ran 27:11.6, you should be smart enough to do the rest of the math.
Time for all you statistical geeks to put down your calculators and give Rupp the acclaim he is due. No one, including myself, has said on this thread that Rupp's time was intrinsically any faster than Lindgren's time.
PS. My first T&FN subscription had John Von Reeden on the cover--1970 something.
edit: I see where "Coach Rod" said he favors Rupp's time over Lindgren's time. I stand corrected.Comment
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Re: Rupp vs Lindgren
Both Lindgren and Rupp's performances are terrific...this is all there is to it...I don't think there was any intent by Mr. Gee to diminish Rupp's great run.Comment
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Re: Rupp vs Lindgren
twittering debutante,
your comments are inappropriate and boorish. The OP asked specific questions and I was seeking answers/clarifications from a knowledgable audience.
Analyze your own motivations for posting, not mine, as you are clearly not trained to do so.
Maturity does not always come with age, as you are demonstrating. Or perhaps you should be more compliant with your medication. Until then, do not bother responding to any of my posts.Comment
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Re: Rupp vs Lindgren
A bit overlooked in the crush? A 5K PR for Ritzenhein.Comment
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I will post whenever I feel like posting. If you over-personalize comments made in response to your posts, you should avoid message boards or seek professional help.Comment
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Re: Rupp vs Lindgren
in my mind Lindgrens mark is far more superior then Rupps(which is great)...Lindgren was pretty close to the world record I would have to guess...and I don't think Lidgren had a coach, agent, handler, workout rabbits, a company and a university all pushing him along....
One of the articles about Rupp today, just had quotes from SALAZAR, not Tyson...UofO should be ashamed...I think they want another Pre so badly it stinks...Comment
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