No interest in T&F found in Eastern Europe

[deltre]

I just ended a 24-day trip to Eastern Europe(East Germany, Poland, Czech Republic, and Slovakia.) I found absolutely no interest in T&F or athletics as they are called in those countries. None. All the young jocks are into soccer, of course, or hockey. I spoke with many young men who said that they wouldn't waste their time on such a sport, It sure doesn't bode well for T&F in the future in these emerging countries, or the world in general.

[tafnut]

Re: No interest in T&F found in Eastern Europe

>>It sure doesn't bode well for T&F in the future in these emerging countries, or the world in general.<<

welcome to our (USA) world.

[Pego]

Re: No interest in T&F found in Eastern Europe

It was soooo different in the '50s-60s. I guess, times are changing. Or perhaps John's (deltre's) population sample is not representative.

[trackhead]

Re: No interest in T&F found in Eastern Europe

Eastern Europe had some good results last season:

Men's 800m. Final. Olympic Games 2004

1. Yuriy Borzakovskiy (RUS) 1:44.45

Men's 1500m. Final. Olympic Games 2004

5. Ivan Heshko (UKR) 3:35.82

(more southern than east Europe, but)
Men's Marathon. Olympic Games 2004

1. Stefano Baldini (ITA) 2:10.55

Men's 110m. Hurdles Final. Olympic Games 2004
5. Stanislavs Olijars (LAT) 13.21

Men's 400m. Hurdles Final. Olympic Games 2004
6. Marek Plawgo (POL) 49.00

Men's 50km. Walk. Olympic Games 2004

1. Robert Korzeniowski (POL) 3:38.46
2. Denis Nizhegorodov (RUS) 3:42.50
3. Aleksey Voyevodin (RUS) 3:43.34
4. Caohong Yu (CHN) 3:43.45
5. Jesus Angel Garcia (SPA) 3:44.42
6. Roman Magdziarczyk (POL) 3:48.11
7. Grzegorz Sudol (POL) 3:49.09
8. Santiago Perez (SPA) 3:49.48

Men's 4x100m. Relay Final. Olympic Games 2004
5. Poland (Zbigniew Tulin, Lukasz Chyla, Marcin Jedrusinski, Marcin Urbas) 38.54

(again, not really eastern, but on the way...)
Men's 4x400m. Relay Final. Olympic Games 2004
7. Germany (Ingo Schultz, Kamghe Gaba, Ruwen Faller, Bastian Swillims) 3:02.22

Men's High Jump Final. Olympic Games 2004

1. Stefan Holm (SWE) 2.36m
2. Matt Hemingway (USA) 2.34m
3. Jaroslav Baba (CZE) 2.34m
4. Jamie Nieto (USA) 2.34m
5. Andriy Sokolovskyy (UKR) 2.32m
6. Yaroslav Rybakov (RUS) 2.32m
7. Mark Boswell (CAN) 2.29m
8. Svatoslav Ton (CZE) 2.29m

Men's Triple Jump Final. Olympic Games 2004

1. Christian Olsson (SWE) 17.79m
2. Marian Oprea (ROM) 17.55m
3. Danila Burkenya (RUS) 17.48m
4. Yoandri Betanzos (CUB) 17.47m
5. Jadel Gregorio (BRA) 17.31m
6. Hristos Meletoglou (GRE) 17.13m
7. Viktor Gushchinskiy (RUS) 17.11m
8. Yoelbi Quesada (CUB) 16.96m

Men's Shot Put Final. Olympic Games 2004

1. Yuri Bilonog (UKR) 21.16m
2. Adam Nelson (USA) 21.16m
3. Joachim Olsen (DEN) 21.07m
4. Manuel Martinez (SPA) 20.84m
5. Andrey Mikhnevich (BLR) 20.60m
6. Yuriy Belov (BLR) 20.34m
7. Justin Anlezark (AUS) 20.31m
8. Ralf Bartels (GER) 20.26m

Men's Discus Final. Olympic Games 2004

1. Virgilijus Alekna (LIT) 69.89m OR
2. Zoltan Kovago (HUN) 67.04m
3. Aleksander Tammert (EST) 66.66m
4. Vasiliy Kaptyukh (BLR) 65.10m
5. Frantz Kruger (RSA) 64.34m
6. Casey Malone (USA) 64.33m
7. Lars Riedel (GER) 62.80m
8. Hannes Hopley (RSA) 62.58m

Men's Hammer Final. Olympic Games 2004
2. Ivan Tikhon (BLR) 79.81m
3. Esref Apak (TUR) 79.51m
4. Vadim Devyatovskiy (BLR) 78.82m
5. Krisztian Pars (HUN) 78.73m
6. Primoz Kozmus (SLV) 78.56m
7. Libor Charfreitag (SVK) 77.54m
8. Karsten Kobs (GER) 76.30m

Men's Javelin Final. Olympic Games 2004

1. Andreas Thorkildsen (NOR) 86.50m
2. Vadims Vasilevskis (LAT) 84.95m
3. Sergey Makarov (RUS) 84.84m
4. Steve Backley (GBR) 84.13m
5. Alexandr Ivanov (RUS) 83.31m
6. Andrus Varnik (EST) 83.25m
7. Eriks Rags (LAT) 83.14m
8. Tero Pitkamaki (FIN) 83.01m

Men's Decathlon Final. Olympic Games 2004

1. Roman Sebrle (CZE) 8893pts OR
2. Bryan Clay (USA) 8820pts
3. Dmitriy Karpov (KAZ) 8725pts
4. Dean Macey (GBR) 8414pts
5. Chiel Warners (NED) 8343pts
6. Attila Zsivoczky (HUN) 8287pts
7. Laurent Hernu (FRA) 8237pts
8. Erki Nool (EST) 8235pts

Womens 100m. Final. Olympic Games 2004

1. Yuliya Nesterenko (BLR) 10.93
2. Lauryn Williams (USA) 10.96
3. Veronica Campbell (JAM) 10.97
4. Ivet Lalova (BGR) 11.00

Womens 200m. Final. Olympic Games 2004
5. Ivet Lalova (BGR) 22.57

Womens 800m. Final. Olympic Games 2004

1. Kelly Holmes (GBR) 1:56.38
2. Hasna Benhassi (MOR) 1:56.43
3. Jolanda Ceplak (SLV) 1:56.43
4. Maria de Lurdes Mutola (MOZ) 1:56.51
5. Tatyana Andrianova (RUS) 1:56.88
6. Jearl Miles Clark (USA) 1:57.27
7. Maria Cioncan (ROM) 1:59.62
8. Zulia Calatayud (CUB) 2:00.95

Womens 1,500m. Final. Olympic Games 2004

1. Kelly Holmes (GBR) 3:57.90
2. Tatyana Tomashova (RUS) 3:58.12
3. Maria Cioncan (ROM) 3:58.39
4. Natalya Yevdokimova (RUS) 3:59.05
5. Daniela Yordanova (BGR) 3:59.10
6. Lidia Chojecka (POL) 3:59.27
7. Anna Jakubczak (POL) 4:00.15
8. Elvan Abeylegesse (TUR) 4:00.67

Womens 5,000m. Final. Olympic Games 2004

4. Yelena Zadorozhnaya (RUS) 14:55.52
5. Joanne Pavey (GBR) 14:57.87
6. Gulnara Samitova (RUS) 15:02.30
7. Irina Mikitenko (GER) 15:03.36
8. Yingjie Sun (CHN) 15:07.23

Womens 10,000m. Final. Olympic Games 2004
7. Jelena Prokopcuka (LAT) 31:04.10

Womens Marathon Final. Olympic Games 2004
6. Olivera Jevtic (SER) 2:31.15

Womens 100m. Hurdles Final. Olympic Games 2004
2. Olena Krasovska (UKR) 12.45
3. Melissa Morrison (USA) 12.56
4. Mariya Koroteyeva (RUS) 12.72

Womens 400m. Hurdles Final. Olympic Games 2004

1. Fani Halkia (GRE) 52.82
2. Ionela Tirlea-Manolache (ROM) 53.38
3. Tetiana Tereshchuk-Antipova (UKR) 53.44
4. Sheena Johnson (USA) 53.83
5. Jana Pittman (AUS) 53.92
6. Yekaterina Bikert (RUS) 54.18
7. Brenda Taylor (USA) 54.97
8. Yuliya Pechenkina (RUS) 55.79

Womens 20km. Walk Final. Olympic Games 2004

1. Athanasia Tsoumeleka (GRE) 1:29.12
2. Olimpiada Ivanova (RUS) 1:29.16
3. Jane Saville (AUS) 1:29.25
4. Margarita Turova (BLR) 1:29.39
5. Melanie Seeger (GER) 1:29.52
6. Elisa Rigaudo (ITA) 1:29.57
7. Maria Vasco (SPA) 1:30.06
8. Liping Wang (CHN) 1:30.16

Womens 4x100m. Relay Final. Olympic Games 2004

1. Jamaica (Tayna Lawrence, Sherone Simpson, Aleen Bailey, Veronica Campbell) 41.73
2. Russia (Olga Fyodorova, Yuliya Tabakova, Irina Khabarova, Larisa Kruglova) 42.27
3. France (Veronique Mang, Muriel Hurtis, Sylviane Felix, Christine Arron) 42.54
4. Bahamas (Timicka Clarke, Chandra Sturrup, Shandria Brown, Debbie Ferguson) 42.69
5. Belarus (Yuliya Nesterenko, Natalya Safronnikova, Yelena Nevmerzhitskaya, Oksana Dragun) 42.94
6. Belgium (Katleen de Caluwe, Lien Huyghebaert, Elodie Ouedraogo, Kim Gevaert) 43.11
7. Nigeria (Gloria Kemasuode, Mercy Nku, Oludamola Osayomi, Endurance Ojokolo) 43.42

Womens 4x400m. Relay Final. Olympic Games 2004

1. United States (DeeDee Trotter, Monique Henderson, Sanya Richards, Monique Hennagan) 3:19.01
2. Russia (Olesya Krasnomovets, Natalya Nazarova, Olesya Zykina, Natalya Antyukh) 3:20.16
3. Jamaica (Novlene Williams, Michelle Burgher, Nadia Davy, Sandie Richards) 3:22.00
4. Great Britain (Donna Fraser, Catherine Murphy, Christine Ohuruogu, Lee McConnell) 3:25.12
5. Poland (Zuzanna Radecka, Monika Bejnar, Malgorzata Pskit, Grazyna Prokopek) 3:25.22
6. Romania (Angela Morosanu, Alina Rapanu, Maria Rus, Ionela Tirlea-Manolache) 3:26.81
7. India (Satti Geetha, K Mathews Beenamol, Chitra K Soman, Rajwinder Kaur) 3:28.51
8. Greece (Hariklia Bouda, Hrisoula Goudenoudi, Dimitra Dova, Fani Halkia) 3:45.70

Womens High Jump Final. Olympic Games 2004

1. Yelena Slesarenko (RUS) 2.06m OR
2. Hestrie Cloete (RSA) 2.02m
3. Viktoriya Styopina (UKR) 2.02m
4. Amy Acuff (USA) 1.99m
5. Iryna Mykhalchenko (UKR) 1.96m
6. Anna Chicherova (RUS) 1.96m
7. Oana Pantelimon (ROM) 1.93m
8. Monica Iagar (ROM) 1.93m

Womens Long Jump Final. Olympic Games 2004

1. Tatyana Lebedeva (RUS) 7.07m
2. Irina Simagina (RUS) 7.05m
3. Tatyana Kotova (RUS) 7.05m
4. Bronwyn Thompson (AUS) 6.96m
5. Marion Jones (USA) 6.85m
6. Anju Bobby George (IND) 6.83m
7. Jade Johnson (GBR) 6.80m
8. Tunde Vaszi (HUN) 6.73m

Womens Triple Jump Final. Olympic Games 2004

1. Francoise Mbango Etone (CMR) 15.30m
2. Hrysopiyi Devetzi (GRE) 15.25m
3. Tatyana Lebedeva (RUS) 15.14m
4. Trecia Smith (JAM) 15.02m
5. Yamile Aldama (SUD) 14.99m
6. Baya Rahouli (ALG) 14.86m
7. Magdelin Martinez (ITA) 14.85m
8. Anna Pyatykh (RUS) 14.79m

Womens Shot Put Final. Olympic Games 2004

1. Yumileidi Cumba (CUB) 19.59m
2. Nadine Kleinert (GER) 19.55m
3. Svetlana Krivelyova (RUS) 19.49m
4. Nadezhda Ostapchuk (BLR) 19.01m
5. Natalia Khoroneko (BLR) 18.96m
6. Krystyna Zabawska (POL) 18.64m
7. Misleydis Gonzalez (CUB) 18.59m
8. Valerie Adams (NZL) 18.56m

Womens Discus Final. Olympic Games 2004

1. Natalya Sadova (RUS) 67.02m
2. Anastasia Kelesidou (GRE) 66.68m
3. Irina Yatchenko (BLR) 66.17m
4. Vera Pospisilova Cechlova (CZE) 66.08m
5. Olena Antonova (UKR) 65.75m
6. Nicoleta Grasu (Rom) 64.92m
7. Beatrice Faumuina (NZL) 63.45m
8. Ekaterini Voggoli (GRE) 62.37m

Womens Javelin Final. Olympic Games 2004

1. Osleidys Menendez (CUB) 71.53m OR
2. Steffi Nerius (GER) 65.82m
3. Mirela Manjani (GRE) 64.29m
4. Nikola Brejchova (CZE) 64.23m
5. Sonia Bisset (CUB) 63.54m
6. Laverne Eve (BAH) 62.77m
7. Noraida Bicet (CUB) 62.51m
8. Tetyana Lyakhovych (UKR) 61.75m

Womens Pole Vault Final. Olympic Games 2004

1. Yelena Isinbayeva (RUS) 4.91m WR
2. Svetlana Feofanova (RUS) 4.75m
3. Anna Rogowska (POL) 4.70m
4. Monika Pyrek (POL) 4.55m
5. Thorey Edda Elisdottir (ICE) 4.55m
6. Vanessa Boslak (FRA) 4.40m
6. Naroa Agirre (SPA) 4.40m
6. Dana Ellis (CAN) 4.40m
6. Anzhela Balakhonova (UKR) 4.40m

Womens Hammer Final. Olympic Games 2004

1. Olga Kuzenkova (RUS) 75.02m OR
2. Yipsi Moreno (CUB) 73.36m
3. Yunaika Crawford (CUB) 73.16m
4. Betty Heidler (GER) 72.73m
5. Kamila Skolimowska (POL) 72.57m
6. Olga Tsander (BLR) 72.27m
7. Wenxiu Zhang (CHN) 72.03m
8. Iryna Sekachova (UKR) 70.40m

Womens Heptathlon Final. Olympic Games 2004

1. Carolina Kluft (SWE) 6952pts
2. Austra Skujyte (LIT) 6435pts
3. Kelly Sotherton (GBR) 6424pts
4. Shelia Burrell (USA) 6296pts
5. Yelena Prokhorova (RUS) 6289pts
6. Sonja Kesselschlaeger (GER) 6287pts
7. Marie Collonville (FRA) 6279pts
8. Natalya Dobrynska (UKR) 6255pts

[Thor]

Re: No interest in T&F found in Eastern Europe

>>>It sure doesn't bode well for T&F in the future in these emerging countries,
>or the world in general.<<

welcome to our (USA) world.

It's the same the world over really. Track and field gets respect, but no love.

[deltre]

Re: No interest in T&F found in Eastern Europe

>It was soooo different in the '50s-60s. I guess, times are changing. Or perhaps
>John's (deltre's) population sample is not representative.

The people I spoke with were all young men who were avid players and fans of football and hockey, especially since the WC's were on in Vienna. No one knew or cared a thing about T&F. I visited several stadiums in many towns and never saw any meets in progress or any practice or workouts going on. I would say that T&F is of less interest to the general population in those countries than it is in the US.

[Powell]

Re: No interest in T&F found in Eastern Europe

>I would say
>that T&F is of less interest to the general population in those countries than
>it is in the US.

I would disagree - not that that's saying much...

[KLocke]

Re: No interest in T&F found in Eastern Europe

The Pole Vault Meeting of Stars in Donetsk, Ukraine was occupied to it's capacity. Sold out arena

[gh]

Re: No interest in T&F found in Eastern Europe

Here's the countries deltre listed as those he visited and talked to people in

East Germany, Poland, Czech Republic, and Slovakia.

Citing Russian results and a meet in Ukraine isn't germane to what he said, although they may go to the subject line.

[trackhead]

Re: No interest in T&F found in Eastern Europe

Yes, I was looking at Eastern Europe beyond just the countries listed in the journey.