What to do with boys who hit us with debris on our run?

[MJD]

Re: What to do with boys who hit us with debris on our run?

><<<So is Frye though. I would have taken something to the windows of the car
>the minute I saw the dog before I called the police or the SPCA and bar the
>consequences.>>

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Human? Yes, without a doubt. Dog? Aye...don't know if I
>would be so quick to take matters in mine own hands...

The casino basically let the dog die. I wouldn't have hesitated.

[RMc]

Re: What to do with boys who hit us with debris on our run?

I've been hit several times by flying objects from kids in cars. Last summer I saw kids throw water balloons at some bike riders downtown while I was driving around, and I chased them in my car for a short while. I reported them to the police with the license plate #. I never heard if anything happened.

I say throw the book at them, ask for the most severe punishment possible, and have them get up in front of school assembly and tell their friends what happened and how they were punished. Unfortunately we need to keep reliving teenage idiocy where hurting other people is funny.

[BillVol]

Re: What to do with boys who hit us with debris on our run?

Teepeeing, huh? Looks like the rest of the nation has some catching up to do in yet another area!

[MJD]

Re: What to do with boys who hit us with debris on our run?

><<<So is Frye though. I would have taken something to the windows of the car
>the minute I saw the dog before I called the police or the SPCA and bar the
>consequences.>>

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Human? Yes, without a doubt. Dog? Aye...don't know if I
>would be so quick to take matters in mine own hands...


Looks like this bunch agrees with you. More on the story:

"A frantic attempt to get the dog out ensued. Within minutes, a security guard managed to open one of the car’s doors using a coat hanger, Rivers said."

I see a LOT of time getting wasted. As far as I'm concerned, that bunch killed the dog too-co-conspirators after the fact, so to speak. Here's the rub:


“I think they should give him the same punishment they would have if he left a child in a car,” said Helen Rivers. “An animal relies on people just like a child does.”


Her reaction to the incident isn't consistent with her beliefs. If she really believes that, she should have busted the window in. But then I like to react to problems and deal with them rather than take part in a bunch of feel-good verbal diarrhea.

http://tinyurl.com/exsbv

[lonewolf49]

Re: What to do with boys who hit us with debris on our run?

There is no perfect solution to curbing ignorance but my son and his HS XC running buddies once had an intuitive response that, although risky for mortal non-juveniles, proved effective.
They were repeatedly harassed with catcalls, which they ignored, but when the harassers began leaning out the car windows to throw beer on them and strike the runners with, fortunately, non-lethal objects, they struck back.
After one such incident a group of five runners overtook the offending vehicle at a stop light. Before the culprits knew what had hit them, five athletic young men ran up the trunk, over the top and hood, off the front, made a quick left turn, protected by the light and into the fields, out of reach of the irate occupants of a someone's daddy's severely dented Mercedes. The harassment stopped and they were never heard from.

[MJD]

Re: What to do with boys who hit us with debris on our run?

><<<So is Frye though. I would have taken something to the windows of the car
>the minute I saw the dog before I called the police or the SPCA and bar the
>consequences.>>

---
Human? Yes, without a doubt. Dog? Aye...don't know if I
>would be so quick to take matters in mine own hands...


Looks like this bunch agrees with you. More on the story:

"A frantic attempt to get the dog out ensued. Within minutes, a security guard managed to open one of the car’s doors using a coat hanger, Rivers said."

I see a LOT of time getting wasted. As far as I'm concerned, that bunch killed the dog too-co-conspirators after the fact, so to speak. Here's the rub:


“I think they should give him the same punishment they would have if he left a child in a car,” said Helen Rivers. “An animal relies on people just like a child does.”


Her reaction to the incident isn't consistent with her beliefs. If she really believes that, she should have busted the window in. But then I like to react to problems and deal with them rather than take part in a bunch of feel-good verbal diarrhea.

http://tinyurl.com/exsbv

I read today that the guy got 45 days house arrest, probation of one year and was ordered to pay $2000.00 to the SPCA. Not enough-he left the dog in the car for 12 yours while it was 93 outside. Still say the people who found the dog are culpable. I did a search on the guy and I see he is a slip and fall expert:

"A London, Ont. man has won $100,000 in damages, lost wages and medical
expenses after he slipped on the floor of a hockey arena that had become fogged
due to high humidity. Angelo Economopoulos, a restaurant cook, testified that he has
suffered from chronic pain since slipping on his way from the arena’s back door to his
seat in September 1997, injuring his right shoulder and neck and knocking his head."

http://tinyurl.com/2gtst8

[Jumpman]

Re: What to do with boys who hit us with debris on our run?

If you don't press charges, this cycle will continue and if someone DOES get hurt, you will regret not doing something when you had the chance.

I don't agree with tafnut very often but he has the ONLY correct answer. I am in Law Enforcement and you would be surprized at how aften people report crimes but don't want us to do anything except talk to them. That just shows them they can get away with it. PRESS CHARGES

[figo]

i've only had to discipline a couple of individuals on a training run.
if it's not too dangerous, it's fun, efficient and good for the community to take matters into your own hands.

sometimes at the local, people share "expired statute of limitations" stories.
a friend with "sicilian blood" shall we say was driving to an official range shooting contest.... along the way, a random car full of ahole fellows started cutting him off, throwing things, making things dangerous. our experienced friend tried to lose them but they were determined to keep at it basically making a fatal accident a real possibility.

finally, as the ahole vehicle at high speed approached from the side, my friend rammed the car and drove them into a curb, the last thing he saw was the vehicle flipping end over end in the rear view mirror. in the next day's papers no deaths were reported so apparently these naughty boys got to learn their lesson.