Records too good to break!

[Guest]

There are a few records that I personally believe will not be broken in this generation. (200M,400M Men), 100M-800M (Women), Polevault,LJ,HJ(Men), etc. What's your take. I wouldn't bet on men distant events,not at all, not with the Kenyans & Ethiopians being around.

[Guest]

Re: Records too good to break!

I think the men's pole vault wr will be broken within the next five years.

[Guest]

Re: Records too good to break!

>There are a few records that I personally believe
>will not be broken in this generation. (200M,400M
>Men), 100M-800M (Women), Polevault,LJ,HJ(Men),
>etc. What's your take. I wouldn't bet on men
>distant events,not at all, not with the Kenyans &
>Ethiopians being around.

the womens 100-800 records , i dont know as i said in a previous post, who knows what the chinese women will do when the olympics come to beijing in 2008, run tremendous as in 93 and 97 or do nothing like every other year, remember besides shattering the distance records, they ran 10.79, 100, around 22 flat too, 49point 400 and 155 point for 800 mostly by runners that had not been heard of before or since.

[Guest]

Re: Records too good to break!

I pretty much agree with your analysis--I also think it may be a while before the women's 10K and 400h rcords are broken. The men's SP record is way above what anyone is doing right now, and so is the men's 400h and discus.

[Guest]

Re: Records too good to break!

>There are a few records that I personally believe
>will not be broken in this generation. (200M,400M
>Men), 100M-800M (Women), Polevault,LJ,HJ(Men),
>etc. What's your take. I wouldn't bet on men
>distant events,not at all, not with the Kenyans &
>Ethiopians being around.

I'm never quite sure what interval constitutes a generation, or especially when "this" one starts/started. But the record book is so tainted by the "excesses" of the (mainly) eighties by (mostly) eastern bloc athletes that the subject no longer seems worth the focus it should deserve. Among the marks clearly worth the bother, I'd bet on MJ's pair to hang around for at least a decade (400) or two (200).

As great as she was, I'll bet few expected J-K's heptathlon standard to hold for 15 years (the event being so new then), and with little threat at that. You might add Men's Jav to the list. I strongly agree on M distances, as extraordinary as Geb has been. Contrariwise, I think the W400 might go. Perec had the talent but not the head. Guevara is possible.

[NormZylstra]

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Discus is so conditions based I think it will be broken ... a big wind can put 5-10% on a throw ... I think men's shot will stand longer then any of the men's throwing records.

[Guest]

Re: Records too good to break!

I don't think that the women's shot (74-3) or discus (253-0) records will be broken any time soon......

[Guest]

Re: Records too good to break!

The general consensus appears to support an attitude that random out-of-competition testing along with the end of state-supported sports machines has had a large impact on the record book.

[Conway]

Re: Records too good to break!

I think the testing et al has an effect on records ... But if we are talking within the generation I see no reason why all of the men's events are not open game .... Tons of young outstanding sprinters on the horizon ... The distances have been on a tear for a decade now ... Field events may be less vulnerable as technical aspects play more of a role ... On the track one can get away with just being physically superior ...

Women's records are basically out of reach ... Only new events like the pole vault and steeple are truly open game ...