David Krummenacker

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Someone mentioned David Krummenacker "not at the level of the Killer B's of the 800". I have to disagree respectfully with that post.

Now with an indoor World Title, and an injured Bucher and aging Kipketer, Krummy now becomes the favorite at both Paris and Athens.

And I have another prediction. If Krummy wins the gold in Athens, look for the addition of the USA v. The World 4x800 at Penn, with Krummy getting a lot of cash to run in Philly.

Oh, yeah, there's not a lot of media hype on Krummenacker. However, It is correct that he just doesn't have the 3:29 in him to win the 1500. Peace.

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He doesn't have to run 3:29 to win Olympic gold. Nobody has ever broken even 3:32 in the Games, and I don't think they're about to in the head of Athens. Keep training in Arizona, Krumm---you can win the Olympic 1500 even if you can't break 3:30! (but of course you can)

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If Borzakovskiy concentrates on the 800 for the next two seasons, Krummenacker can't run with him. The indoor title is nice, but Kipketer is old. Is Bucher injured again? While healthy, he can run in the 1:42's with regularity, something Krummencacker has yet to do once. In fact, Bucher was able to dip under 1:44 shortly after coming back from his injury last season. (Was it a broken ankle, or bone in his foot?) I agree that Krummenacker isn't at the level of these guys, yet. I'd like to see it. But I doubt it. In the 1500, someone at letsrun wrote that they thought the likely winner in Athens would be someone that isn't being considered as a top threat yet, an unkown. I tend to agree with also, as ElG is getting up there, and the games are a one shot deal. But I don't think the guy that will unseat El G is Krummenacker. I think he has a shot to medal in the 800, but not in the 1500.

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The thing I like best about Krum is that he is a competitor who knows how to race. He may never hold a World Record but he has the ability, instincts, and discipline to win. Borzo might as well be Bozo. By the time Athens rolls around he'll probably skip it saying, "I'm too old. I might get hurt."

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Clearly, Seneca Lassiter is going to win it all. Lagat owes him one, and that's the payoff.

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Krummenacker beat a weak field indoors. Last season, he ran well in Europe, but was regularly knocked around. Borzo is the most talented. I'll go out on a limb and say that he thrashes Krummenacker this season. Bucher (if he isn't out hurt, I didn't read that he was) and Bungei are also better runners over the 800, in my opinion. Sure, it's all subjective, but these guys have run much faster. And have put together strings of fast times. Borzo's coach has more to do with his strange choice of races, like last year's emphasis on the 400. I'd like to see Krummenacker do well, but I think that those three guys are better. Kipketer is getting old, but I wouldn't count him completely out of it yet, either.

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Krums best chance is at 1500m

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All this talk about the ancient Kipketer; the guy is all of 32 years old!

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>All this talk about the ancient Kipketer; the guy
>is all of 32 years old!

But you have to admit, the malaria did take a lot out of him. He is back in world class shape, but he still has yet to return to "Why the hell did the Kenyans keep me out of the Atlanta Olympics?" form. Peace.

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Look at the ages of medalists in the 800 in the history of the Olympics. If he medals in Athens, it will be out of the ordinary. Yes, Kipketer is extraordinary, but time marches on. Your remark on malaria reminds of some threads on other forums. Several people, including some that claimed they had medical backgrounds, said that Kipketer's symptoms were not consistent with malaria at all. I won't get into what they implied, but they made compelling arguments that he was not sick from malaria.

Krummy is a great runner. Let's see if this season he can reach the level of the "Killer B's".

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Could you drop a link to a forum that commented on Kipketer's non-malaria. 30 minutes of searching turned up nothing. Why would you doubt his story?

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OK gents, lets stop this stupidity here and now. Any linkyou find is going to be a brain-dead message poster with no life who has decided that anytime any athlete on the planet gets ill that there's some dark and devious plot related to drugs involved.

Stop it, or we will.

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I do remember reading something on the old Grote forum. The guy remarked on symptoms, and the differences in effects etc. malaria had on Africans and non-Africans, much more severe in non-Africans, the sickle cell etc. was a mutation from their being for the most part immune. I think the point of those guys was that Kipketer shouldn't have been as sick as was claimed. I'm not a doctor, but I do remember some of that from Grote's old site. That was years back, so I don't know if anyone could find anything. I'll try and look around.

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oh, the Grote forum, now there's a place to get hard scientific knowledge---not!

I'm no MD, but as I learned it in basic genetics class lo these many years ago, the sickle-cell epidemeoology, while causing a nasty-nasty disease of its own, also created an enviroment (because of the blood-cell twisting that gives the disease it's name) inhibits the growth of that twisty malaria germ.

Great tradeout; choose your mode of slow death. To imply that there might be an actual benefit to having sickle cell benfit it is KKK ranting takento the nth power. Man, the internet never ceases to boggle/amaze. Anybody can saywhatever they want and have i t accepted as gospel.

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No one wrote that malaria was a benefit. The guy wrote that sickle cell was a mutation that arose from immunity. You are being disningenous. You must still be in college.

Back to Krummenacker. It would be great to see him chisel his times down even more this season. Things are going to heat up with the World Championships coming. His success is what the sport in the US needs. Success feeds on success.