David Krummenacker

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Last year Krummenacker, Robison, and Torres were America's most successful distance runners. What is in store for our 3 best distance runners in 2004? I have heard Krummenacker will not defend his indoor title. Perhaps Krummenacker wants to save himself for the spring and summer season. What is interesting about this thread is how enthusiastic anyone was after Krummenacker's indoor title. There was talk of a gold medal at Paris and a 3:29 1500meters. Did people really expect Krummenacker to go full throttle all year.
However, he did finish 6th in the world in the little run 1000meter run in 2003. The IAAF also ranked him 10th in the 800meter.
I am disappointed that he will not run the 1500 since he has displayed sub-3:50 speed in that event. Still making the finals in the 800 should not be a big problem for Krummenacker. After that maybe he can attempt a sub 3:50 mile. Remember, the last time an American(Jim Spivey) run that fast was back in 1991.

[Big AL]

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i agree totally


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Whenever Kenyans get sick, they often mistakenly say they're suffering from malaria, even if it's just the flu.

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A runner from central Bulgaria
Went to Chad and came down with malaria
If he had sickle cell
He'd be doing quite well
He just can't figure out which is scarier


Now can we please get back to talking about Krummenacker, track, or anything other than tropical medicine.

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Krummy's doing a fine job. Let's hope he and some others take it to the next level for the U.S.A.

Re: Malaria, those that carry the sickle cell trait have a slight advantage when it comes to survival in areas where there is a high rate of malarial infection. But they are not immune. Those that carry two genes for sickle cell (one from each parent) generally die at an early age.

Most adults in areas endemic with malaria have usually developed the immune response to keep themselves from getting very sick - but no it doesn't mean they have sickle cell. The story is different with small children, who are at grave risk during their first or second exposure to malaria. There are actually different types of malaria, but I'm generalizing here. I don't know what the problem was with Kipketer that's being discussed. Most of his slight slowdown is due to age, not from malaria.

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No one wrote that malaria was a benefit. The guy wrote that sickle cell was a mutation that arose from immunity. You are being disningenous. You must still be in college.

Back to Krummenacker. It would be great to see him chisel his times down even more this season. Things are going to heat up with the World Championships coming. His success is what the sport in the US needs. Success feeds on success.

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oh, the Grote forum, now there's a place to get hard scientific knowledge---not!

I'm no MD, but as I learned it in basic genetics class lo these many years ago, the sickle-cell epidemeoology, while causing a nasty-nasty disease of its own, also created an enviroment (because of the blood-cell twisting that gives the disease it's name) inhibits the growth of that twisty malaria germ.

Great tradeout; choose your mode of slow death. To imply that there might be an actual benefit to having sickle cell benfit it is KKK ranting takento the nth power. Man, the internet never ceases to boggle/amaze. Anybody can saywhatever they want and have i t accepted as gospel.

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I do remember reading something on the old Grote forum. The guy remarked on symptoms, and the differences in effects etc. malaria had on Africans and non-Africans, much more severe in non-Africans, the sickle cell etc. was a mutation from their being for the most part immune. I think the point of those guys was that Kipketer shouldn't have been as sick as was claimed. I'm not a doctor, but I do remember some of that from Grote's old site. That was years back, so I don't know if anyone could find anything. I'll try and look around.

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OK gents, lets stop this stupidity here and now. Any linkyou find is going to be a brain-dead message poster with no life who has decided that anytime any athlete on the planet gets ill that there's some dark and devious plot related to drugs involved.

Stop it, or we will.

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Could you drop a link to a forum that commented on Kipketer's non-malaria. 30 minutes of searching turned up nothing. Why would you doubt his story?

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Look at the ages of medalists in the 800 in the history of the Olympics. If he medals in Athens, it will be out of the ordinary. Yes, Kipketer is extraordinary, but time marches on. Your remark on malaria reminds of some threads on other forums. Several people, including some that claimed they had medical backgrounds, said that Kipketer's symptoms were not consistent with malaria at all. I won't get into what they implied, but they made compelling arguments that he was not sick from malaria.

Krummy is a great runner. Let's see if this season he can reach the level of the "Killer B's".

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>All this talk about the ancient Kipketer; the guy
>is all of 32 years old!

But you have to admit, the malaria did take a lot out of him. He is back in world class shape, but he still has yet to return to "Why the hell did the Kenyans keep me out of the Atlanta Olympics?" form. Peace.

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All this talk about the ancient Kipketer; the guy is all of 32 years old!

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Krums best chance is at 1500m

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Krummenacker beat a weak field indoors. Last season, he ran well in Europe, but was regularly knocked around. Borzo is the most talented. I'll go out on a limb and say that he thrashes Krummenacker this season. Bucher (if he isn't out hurt, I didn't read that he was) and Bungei are also better runners over the 800, in my opinion. Sure, it's all subjective, but these guys have run much faster. And have put together strings of fast times. Borzo's coach has more to do with his strange choice of races, like last year's emphasis on the 400. I'd like to see Krummenacker do well, but I think that those three guys are better. Kipketer is getting old, but I wouldn't count him completely out of it yet, either.