Ben Johnson is the best Sprinter the world has ever seen

[Brutal]

Re: Ben Johnson is the best Sprinter the world has ever seen

Mmmmmmm?

Was he the best 400 man....nope! Was he the best 2000 man...nope! That would ne MJ.

Was he the best 60 man.....nope! That would be Mo.

Big Ben was a great 100 meter man "when" juiced to the gils. What if Lewis or any off the other sub 10.10 guys from the 80's were training with Ben and doing the same crap he was doing would he still be da man... nope!

The greatest 100 man ever was Bullet Bob Hayes who would destroy a straight Ben and if on the same junk as Ben would have ran 9.74 in 88.

Ben got popped he was stooooopid.....period!

[Guest]

Re: Ben Johnson is the best Sprinter the world has ever seen

In questa lunga, calda, maledetta estate si sentiva l'esigenza di questa affermazione demenziale. Se Ben Johnson è il più grande, mr sapientone farebbe bene a seguire il bigliardo o le bocce, dove il doping non esiste (forse).

[Guest]

Re: Ben Johnson is the best Sprinter the world has ever seen

In questa lunga, calda, maledetta estate si sentiva l'esigenza di questa affermazione demenziale. Se Ben Johnson è il più grande, mr sapientone farebbe bene a seguire il bigliardo o le bocce, dove il doping non esiste (forse).

[tafnut]

Re: Ben Johnson is the best Sprinter the world has ever seen

um . . . OK . . . whatever. YES - Hayes was the best sprinter ever! Ben J. was the fastest drug cheater ever. There - now we're all happy.

[Guest]

Who the?

Who wrote that last comment about Bob Hayes, his daughter or something? Whatever, if you want to call him the best sprinter ever, you can do that Ms. Hayes, but lets get serious for a second. Maurice does have the 60m world record, but I saw that race with my own eyes, and he caught a flyer, plain and simple. If you average Bens 60m times throughout 86-88, there is no comparison with any other sprinter ever. You have a better argument in trying to say that somebody was better than him in the 100m, let alone the 60m. Ben ran 9.79 with no comp, and 6.41 with no comp. He was WAY ahead of his time, and for whoever said that Carl Lewis would have ran better if he was on drugs, HE WAS ON DRUGS IDIOT! We've already covered that point. If you're going to add to my board, make sure you read messages written before you.

[tafnut]

Re: Who the?

So now it's your board? Plus it would be very hard to mistake me for Ms. Hayes.
It is just my simple opinion that
a. Hayes was the best sprinter ever
b. Ben was a cheater and should not even be considered an athlete. He well could have been a 10.40 sprinter without drugs, but we'll never know because he got good on drugs. There are, for a fact, clean fast sprinters (like Hayes), and ALL of them deserve to be called better sprinters than Johnson. If you didn't do it without cheating, you never did it. I won't get into who else, and what percentage cheated. If you have facts, like Ben's admission or the EG women's admission, then you strike their accomplishments as legit. You, trying to claim Ben is the best ever, are legitimizing his cheating. We simply cannot buy into that. And . . . before you blast me anew and impugn my character, I will once again state my real name and address . . . and what's yours? If you can't reciprocate, please be quiet.
George Patterson Crandall, 52
English & Journalism teacher
Track & Soccer coach
Episcopal HS
Jacksonville, FL
[email protected]
I will post that anytime someone questions my motives. I expect the same from you.

[Brutal]

Re: Who the?

hey lack of knowledge pay attention......

First off don't confuse steroids with Lewis's situation....big difference!!!!!

Bob Hayes on steroids...WOW!!!! He would destroy Ben,it would be comical.

Let's look at Ben in 84 probably his last drug year.He ran in 7 finals winning but once, his best time a 10.12. He was 23.

Hayes was a WR holder/Oly champ before 22 years of age. Once winning 48 races in a row.If Hayes had ran as long as Ben....well!!!

Take a seat little one andstay out of the way....geesh!

[Guest]

Re: Who the?

The Baltimore Colts were taking steroids in the early '60s; "many" members of the '64 Oly team were, because it was legal. With the football connection, who's to say for sure that ole Bullet Bob didn't have a taste or two of the sauce (all completley legal)?

[MJD]

Re: Who the?

Any of the Bullet's times hand-timed?

[Pego]

Re: Who the?

Realist, are you sure of what you are saying? 1960? As far as I recall, the anabolic steroids did not come into vogue until mid-to-late sixties.

[Brutal]

Re: Who the?

The trip concerning Hayes was his size and power at only 19-21 which were his short sprint career.
He was 5-11 at 195 pounds!!!

He was histories first 5.9/9.1/9.9w guy. He could run the 200 in 20.1. All as a college athlete.

If he'd ran on these tracks today up into his late 20's like the dudes today no telling what he might have ran.

If he'd stayed until 68 he burns Hines in at least a 9.85 with that altitude. He was an amazing sprinter!

[tandfman]

Re: Who the?

>1960? As far as I recall, the anabolic steroids
did not come into vogue until mid-to-late
sixties.<

What does 1960 have to do with it. Hayes won the gold in 1964.

[Guest]

Re: Who the?

Thank you for your reply. It's time someone called a bluff in these threads!

[MJD]

Re: Who the?

>Realist, are you sure of what you are saying?
>1960? As far as I recall, the anabolic steroids
>did not come into vogue until mid-to-late
>sixties.

You gotta love google:

"In the 1956 Olympics, Soviet athletes, especially wrestlers, performed at exceptionally high levels. After learning that those athletes were using testosterone,an American physician (Dr. Zeigler) created a more selective form of what we know as anabolic steroids."


http://www.steroids-info.com/history.htm

You have to hand it to the yanks. Whatever the rest of the world is doing, they can usually do it better. I'd say 1960 looks like a pretty reasonable date.

[Pego]

Re: Who the?

I am not talking about Hayes. You are talking about the Colts and '64 OG team. I am saying that I don't recall steroids hitting the scene for another roughly 4-5 years or more.