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  • #16
    'It gets very tiring to hear people continue to bash Newton...'

    Who's bashing Newton? Hey, I think he does a great job, and as I said, I have known Joe well for over 35 years and he is a great guy and very inspiring. However, having said that I can tell you that having going to another school in their conference , Hinsdale Central, that use to get mauled every year by them, I am sure glad I didn't go to school there. I still run at a reasonable level 33 years later, as do several of my old teammates, something that would have not happened if I had gone to York.

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    • #17
      [quote="Conor Dary"]'
      Actually, for a York grad Sage's career was pretty long. He actually ran in college!
      Look, I know Newton and he is a great guy, but to say he burns his runners out is putting it mildly.

      Call me crazy but these do not seem like very positive statements.
      I run into a lot of guys from York that I ran against in high school and they are running and seem to be enjoying running very much. I also thing that the number of guys that he coached that are now coaches speaks highly of his methods.
      I know that I wish that I had a chance to run for him. I was on a state placing team in CC, ahead of York and I placed in track at state. I still speak to my HS coach regularly and think he was and is a great coach. I would have loved to run for Joe. But that is just me.

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      • #18
        'I run into a lot of guys from York that I ran against in high school and they are running and seem to be enjoying running very much. I also think that the number of guys that he coached that are now coaches speaks highly of his methods.'

        I don't know what period you are talking about, but ny experience with the York guys is from 1968 to 1972 when I graduated. I really don't have the slightest clue what they do know at York now.

        As for Newton's methods I have the highest respect. I read 'The Long Green Line' (a copy Newton himself gave me)
        so many times in high school that I could quote it verbatim. I also ran a 1000 miles each summer primarily because what Newton wrote. However, my experience with the York runners, that I knew later from that era, sure made me sure glad I didn't run there.

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        • #19
          There have been some York runners who have had pretty good careers; maybe not long ones but still commendable. I think Louis Luchini was running a little while back and not doing too bad; I think he was running 13:30's-13:50's, and then there is Marius Bakken, the European who ran at York for one year as an exchange student. I wonder if that was a coincidence or not? Bakken ran under 13:10 this past summer and is gradually improving. I don't know why Sage isn't running anymore. I believe he ran under 3:40 for 1500m last spring. Maybe it's that in high school, the structure that Newton provided for his runners was the key to them succeeding so much, whereas in college I imagine not many coaches have a structured training schedule throughout the summer and are actually there. But I could be wrong.

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          • #20
            Did Luchini really go to York at some point? He graduated from Ellsworth HS in Maine in 1999.

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