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  • Originally posted by jazzcyclist View Post

    Do you have a link for this?
    It was in the RG print edition yesterday.

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    • Gov. Kate Brown: Oregon economy could fully reopen in June, but only if majority are vaccinated

      If vaccinations continue at the current pace, Oregon should make enough gains that the extreme restrictions can be lifted after three weeks, Brown said.

      Brown also warned that Oregon’s economy will not fully reopen until a “solid majority” of the population is vaccinated. She said she hopes that will happen by mid to late June.

      "The harsh reality is, the sooner Oregonians get vaccinated, the more people that get vaccinated, the more quickly that we can reopen our economy," Brown said. "Vaccinations are truly the key to this reopening."


      https://www.registerguard.com/story/...ns/4897091001/

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      • Originally posted by jazzcyclist View Post

        Do you have a link for this?
        That specific text is in this article: https://www.registerguard.com/story/...on/7397548002/

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        • Originally posted by bad hammy View Post

          That specific text is in this article: https://www.registerguard.com/story/...on/7397548002/
          Thanks. Some of the folks I talked to today who plan on making a trip or two to Eugene next month were surprised when I told them how bad things were up there and they wanted to know where I got this information from.

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          • Thought it might be better here than over on one of the Covid threads:
            https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/co...ns/ar-BB1geOZN

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            • Originally posted by DrJay View Post
              Thought it might be better here than over on one of the Covid threads:
              https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/co...ns/ar-BB1geOZN
              That's the best explanation of our situation I have seen yet. A lot better than what the RG puts out.

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              • Originally posted by DrJay View Post
                Thought it might be better here than over on one of the Covid threads:
                https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/co...ns/ar-BB1geOZN
                It's amazing that a 55-yesr-old had to wait until April 22 to get her first shot in some states. In Louisiana, everyone I know in that age group who wanted to get vaccinated had already gotten their second shot by the end of March, and I work with a 36-year-old who got his second shot on April 3.

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                • Originally posted by jazzcyclist View Post
                  It's amazing that a 55-yesr-old had to wait until April 22 to get her first shot in some states. In Louisiana, everyone I know in that age group who wanted to get vaccinated had already gotten their second shot by the end of March, and I work with a 36-year-old who got his second shot on April 3.
                  That is because practically everyone here, unlike a lot of states including Louisiana, who was eligible early on wanted a shot.



                  Morning Consult’s polling matches up with many of the states where vaccination rates are so far the lowest: Mississippi has the lowest percentage of residents who have received at least one vaccine dose (30%), followed by Alabama, Louisiana, Idaho, Tennessee, Wyoming, Georgia, Indiana, Arkansas and West Virginia, according to governmental data analyzed by Bloomberg and the New York Times.

                  https://www.forbes.com/sites/alisond...h=3cd39efd3ead

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                  • Oregon has vaccinated 30.5% of their population. They rank 31st.

                    Louisiana has vaccinated 26.6% of their population. They rank 45th.

                    The problem we have going forward, in regards to public events where there will be large crowds, is getting close to everyone vaccinated. The Derby had only 30% of the attendance they would normally have and that was still putting people at risk in areas where they surged together. The OT will have virtually no attendance, the OG is still up in the air. Until we take this seriously the virus will mutate it's way into stopping/pausing society for years.

                    My Portland-living and working daughter gets vaccine #2 today and in a couple weeks we will see her (not on Skype or between a closed glass door) for the first time in over a year despite being twenty minutes apart. And we can breathe easier... for a moment.

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                    • Louisiana and Oregon have some similarities. They rank 25th and 27th in the U.S. in terms of population and both have Democratic governors who have been proactive when it comes to COVID-19 policies. However, right now Oregon's 7-day average of new cases is twice that of Louisiana's. Anecdotally, it seems that about a third of the people I know say they had bad cases of the flu in January or February of 2020, some even requiring hospitalization, before there were COVID-19 tests available. However, they were all told by doctors that they didn't have the flu. In March 2020, when these folks had already recovered, All these folks are now convinced that they had COVID-19, though they were never tested for it. COVID-19 swept through New Orleans after Mardi Gras. I suspect that Louisiana is closer to herd immunity than COVID-19 tests and vaccines would indicate.

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                      • Speculating on herd immunity is a fool's errand at this point...it still is unknown now. India thought they had herd immunity back in February.

                        Coronavirus: Has India achieved herd immunity?

                        https://m.dw.com/en/coronavirus-has-...ity/a-56512000

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                        • I won't respond because the subject isn't COVID. Until we get everyone vaccinated or close to everyone (we don't actually know when herd immunity occurs) missing out on big public events, like the OT or OG or WC, will be common.

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                          • Originally posted by Conor Dary View Post
                            Speculating on herd immunity is a fool's errand at this point...it still is unknown now. India thought they had herd immunity back in February.

                            Coronavirus: Has India achieved herd immunity?

                            https://m.dw.com/en/coronavirus-has-...ity/a-56512000
                            Did you not see the words "anecdotally" and "suspect" in my post? If you can't go on message board and engage in idle speculation and conjecture, the terrorists have won. 😉

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                            • Also, note that to date, Louisiana has had 458,581 positive COVID-19 tests to Oregon's 185,621, and I suspect that both of those are undercounts of the actual number of cases in each state.

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                              • Originally posted by jazzcyclist View Post

                                Did you not see the words "anecdotally" and "suspect" in my post? If you can't go on message board and engage in idle speculation and conjecture, the terrorists have won. 😉
                                I did! But herd immunity is such an unknown now that it is not worth talking about at all. Even being covid positive doesn't guarantee much.

                                Get vaccinated is all that matters.

                                Oregon went to Defcon 1 early on and stayed there a long time.
                                Last edited by Conor Dary; 05-02-2021, 05:37 PM.

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