Asafa Powell Fully Recovered

[EPelle]

Powell Fully Recovered

Powell, who has been sidelined for more than six months, will run at a local meet in Jamaica on Saturday to prepare for next month's Commonwealth Games in Australia, coach Stephen Francis said.

"He's come on well," Francis said. "We'll be testing him in the 400 metres and see how it goes from there."

[SQUACKEE]

But can he recover from TAF cover disaster?

[tafnut]

At the risk of being pummeled by jammin et al, who else here thinks AP is fragile and this may become a pattern? As someone who has suffered through the career of running back Fred Taylor (immensely talented but ALWAYS hurt with some random injury), I'm wondering if his body can take the intense torquing forces involved with running a sub-9.80? He may be too finely tuned a thoroughbred to withstand a full season of sprinting. His current knock is 'he's the fastest dude out there till you get to rounds and then Gatlin is better". Isn't that symptomatic of someone who is prone to breakdown?

Or not - just a thought

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At the risk of being pummeled by jammin et al, who else here thinks AP is fragile and this may become a pattern? As someone who has suffered through the career of running back Fred Taylor (immensely talented but ALWAYS hurt with some random injury), I'm wondering if his body can take the intense torquing forces involved with running a sub-9.80? He may be too finely tuned a thoroughbred to withstand a full season of sprinting. His current knock is 'he's the fastest dude out there till you get to rounds and then Gatlin is better". Isn't that symptomatic of someone who is prone to breakdown?

Or not - just a thought

There already is a pattern. The question is can he break it. God , i hope so! He is fantasticly awesome!!!!! I really feel bad for him, fighting these injuries and if and when he races Gatlin my heart might root for the jamaican.

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when he races Gatlin my heart might root for the jamaican.

I agree - we need total doubt whenever they race. I don't want JG to be dominant - where's the fun in that? (I'm totally serious).

[Infama]

Pattern?

He ran a full season in 2004 with nothing major. Before 2005, he had an injury at the season end 2003. Recall 9 sub 10s in 2004, including 4 rounds at the Olys.

He also managed to readh finals in CWG 2002 and probably would have done well in 2003 WCs if not for the bogus DQ.

Gat was injured 2003 and again at the start of 2005 with a slight niggle. Gat does not have as many sub10s , thugh he does have 3 sub 9.9s

To early to call any pattern, though his groin thing was serious and lasted for the whole year.

[eldrick]

groin injuries are very serious because of the "delicate" interplay of muscles/tendons & ligaments involved in such a small region

they are notorious for slow-healing & tendency to re-injury ( as taf mentioned due to the tremendous forces being exerted in this small region )

it doesn't matter what your career achievements were before the injury

it's the problems you may have after the injury - as mentioned above

he's pretty much ruled out the 200 for a while ( apparently bend-running aggravates the region ) & i for one woud be mildly surprised if he ever performs consistently to the level did early/mid last year

[Conway]

Pattern?

He ran a full season in 2004 with nothing major. Before 2005, he had an injury at the season end 2003. Recall 9 sub 10s in 2004, including 4 rounds at the Olys.

He also managed to readh finals in CWG 2002 and probably would have done well in 2003 WCs if not for the bogus DQ.

Gat was injured 2003 and again at the start of 2005 with a slight niggle. Gat does not have as many sub10s , thugh he does have 3 sub 9.9s

To early to call any pattern, though his groin thing was serious and lasted for the whole year.

Powell has 13 sub 10's ... Gat has 11 sub 10's ... That's basically the same ... Not much difference ... Powell has 4 sub 9.90's ... Gat has 3 sub 9.90's ... Again basically the same ...

Also, if I recall correctly, Powell pulled out of the '04 200 final citing injury ...

And given the result of the '04 Games, it is a bit of a stretch to say how he would have performed in Paris had he reached the final ... Do not forget that he was TWO rounds away from that final as the DQ occured in the Quarterfinal round ... No guarantee that he would have gotten out of the semis, (didn't get out of the Commonwealth semis the year before) and no guarantee what he would have done had he made the final ...

But back to the original topic, there were injuries in '03, '04, and '05 ... That would be a pattern ...

[Infama]

El D,

I dont disagree with your premise, but I was addressing the pattern thing. Different point.

Conway,
The 2004 thing was more fatigue and caution for the circuit. We all agreed this at the time. 10 days later a 9.87s PB.

Gat is close in his times, but also in injuries.....2003 and niggles in 2005. Neither have been especially injry prone given their levels.

Powell ran 10.05s easy in 2nd round and you tell me he wouldnt make the final. Recall the final winning time and the level of the competition.The thought of not making the final boggles the imagination, though nothing is guranteed to ANYONE.

[eldrick]

And given the result of the '04 Games, it is a bit of a stretch to say how he would have performed in Paris had he reached the final ... Do not forget that he was TWO rounds away from that final as the DQ occured in the Quarterfinal round ... No guarantee that he would have gotten out of the semis, (didn't get out of the Commonwealth semis the year before) and no guarantee what he would have done had he made the final ...

i woudn't sell him short - he looked awesome his heat with a 10.09 easing down


http://www.iaaf.org/WCH03/results/photo ... Popup.html

i'm sure he was already in 9.90 - 9.95 shape at that time

lookin at how the final was run, i'm sure even a slightly nervous safa wouda still walked to the win ( even if he's frozen with fear, it's almost impossible to believe that he still coudn't go at least 10-flat )

imho he was the man who got shafted the worst in '03 100 event

[marknhj]

Pictures speak a thousand words - to me the two pics of Powell & Gatlin in the latest T&FN (January - not the dodgy cover one) say everything, pages 14 and 78. Assuming they're both fully fit I'd put my money on Powell every time in a single race.

[observer2]

Who is Asafa Powell?

[Conway]

And given the result of the '04 Games, it is a bit of a stretch to say how he would have performed in Paris had he reached the final ... Do not forget that he was TWO rounds away from that final as the DQ occured in the Quarterfinal round ... No guarantee that he would have gotten out of the semis, (didn't get out of the Commonwealth semis the year before) and no guarantee what he would have done had he made the final ...

i woudn't sell him short - he looked awesome his heat with a 10.09 easing down


http://www.iaaf.org/WCH03/results/photo ... Popup.html

i'm sure he was already in 9.90 - 9.95 shape at that time

lookin at how the final was run, i'm sure even a slightly nervous safa wouda still walked to the win ( even if he's frozen with fear, it's almost impossible to believe that he still coudn't go at least 10-flat )

imho he was the man who got shafted the worst in '03 100 event

Powell PR'd AFTER Worlds with a 10.02 run ... So let's stop the "he coulda walked to a nervous 10 flat" talk ... Powell's "emergence" didn't take place until 2004, so let's ease up on the "what he coulda done in '03" speculation ... Powell was not a sub10 sprinter until 2004 ...

[eldrick]

Powell PR'd AFTER Worlds with a 10.02 run

yeah with gatlin (9.97sb just 3/52 earlier) 2nd in 10.09

go watch the vid of his 10.09 heat in wc, with him barely getting out of 3rd gear & ambling in towards the finish

if he wasn't already a big sub-10 talent then, you are deluding yourself...

[Conway]

Powell PR'd AFTER Worlds with a 10.02 run

yeah with gatlin (9.97sb just 3/52 earlier) 2nd in 10.09

go watch the vid of his 10.09 heat in wc, with him barely getting out of 3rd gear & ambling in towards the finish

if he wasn't already a big sub-10 talent then, you are deluding yourself...

He ambled to the finish of a 9.99 in his quarterfinal in Athens too .... If I remember correctly he finished at 9.94 in the final ... He wasn't a sub10 until he RAN a sub10 ...

Bigga ran all around 10.00 last year too ... But he won't be a sub10 talent until he runs a sub10 ... Speculation means ZERO !!!! The only thing that matters is performance ...