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  • #31
    Horses instead of bicycles made it more of a medieval pentathlon.

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    • #32
      Originally posted by polevaultpower View Post
      So now it will be a triathlon with weapons.
      Touche! Olympics should have duelling....

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      • #33
        Originally posted by polevaultpower View Post
        So now it will be a triathlon with weapons.
        Well, that's pretty much today's military, especially the spec ops teams. Maybe we could load four competitors into a Humvee and have them shoot into doorways at 30 mph. After that they have to site a target and call in an airstrike, scoring on accuracy.

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        • #34
          Originally posted by 18.99s View Post
          Horses instead of bicycles made it more of a medieval pentathlon.
          Horses were commonly used in WW1 - after the event was created - and some countries (ok not the strongest) still used them in WWII.

          I'm not sure that cycling is a perfect replacement because of the similarities with triathlon. As some have said mountain bikes might be slightly better.

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          • #35
            Hundreds of modern pentathletes - including Olympic champs - call on the President & Board to resign:

            https://www.insidethegames.biz/artic...uipm-schormann

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            • #36
              Originally posted by Vault-emort View Post
              Horses were commonly used in WW1 - after the event was created - and some countries (ok not the strongest) still used them in WWII.
              Horses were also used in B.C. years, which makes bicycles far more modern.

              I'm not sure that cycling is a perfect replacement because of the similarities with triathlon. As some have said mountain bikes might be slightly better.
              I would expect them to do BMX or mountain biking on a cross-country or moto-cross type course, not track or road cycling.
              Last edited by 18.99s; 11-06-2021, 12:52 AM.

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              • #37
                Originally posted by Cooter Brown View Post

                Something more "modern" like an obstacle/cross country race like Spartan Race is more likely than cross country.
                This would be redundant, since the podium is likely to be swept by B-list steeplers who did not make the Olympic team.

                Warrior Dash series once offered big prize money for their World Championships. Max King and Kimber Mattox trounced the competition. After seeing Mattox winning the big money, Bridget Franek decided to enter the next year, easily beat Mattox, leaving the "regulars" of the series further behind. They stopped giving the big money before Evan Jager and Emma Coburn could ruin it even further.

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by TN1965 View Post
                  This would be redundant, since the podium is likely to be swept by B-list steeplers who did not make the Olympic team.
                  Not really, because that's just one of the 5 skills. They'd still have to learn to swim, fence, and shoot.

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by 18.99s View Post

                    Not really, because that's just one of the 5 skills. They'd still have to learn to swim, fence, and shoot.
                    My post was in response to the idea of an obstacle race as a stand alone event, and not part of the modern pentathlon.

                    As an event within the Modern Pentathlon. I think sport climbing is a better option than mountain biking. Now that sport climbing is an Olympic event, you wouldn't need an extra facility at the Olympics.

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                    • #40
                      An obstacle course version would have to de-emphasize running, since that's already a primary aspect of the final element. The obstacles would have to be close together. Also the hurdles could be oddly shaped and ones that you couldn't merely jump without touching. So many possibilities. All they need is some creativity. Throw in some ramps. A maze. Crawl through rushing water that could knock you sideways. Make it muddy. If they get it right then new fans will pay attention and very soon it will be disbelief that they stuck with the stodgy riding element for so long.

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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by Awsi Dooger View Post
                        An obstacle course version would have to de-emphasize running, since that's already a primary aspect of the final element. The obstacles would have to be close together. Also the hurdles could be oddly shaped and ones that you couldn't merely jump without touching. So many possibilities. All they need is some creativity. Throw in some ramps. A maze. Crawl through rushing water that could knock you sideways. Make it muddy. If they get it right then new fans will pay attention and very soon it will be disbelief that they stuck with the stodgy riding element for so long.
                        Something like on those Japanese TV game shows

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                        • #42
                          Ninja Warrior!

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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by Conor Dary View Post

                            Not so....at my old high school one of our top swimmers at a school that won 12 state titles in a row and several Olympians....

                            Robert Nieman, Class of 1966, has distinguished himself numerous times in the sports of Modern Pentathlon and Fencing. He made 3 Olympic Teams in Pentathlon. He was also a member of the U.S. Olympic Fencing Team in 1980, when he also Co-Captained the U. S. Summer Olympic Team.

                            While at Hinsdale Central High School, Mr. Nieman was an outstanding member of the swimming team. He was the only double winner in the State Championship in 1966, winning the 100 and 200 yard free style events. His later accomplishments include winning the U. S. National Pentathlon Championships ('76, '82, and '88) and the U. S. National Team Fencing Championships (1979 through 1983, and 1990). He is the only American ever to win an individual World Championship in Modern Pentathlon (Budapest, Hungary -- 1979), and a member of the first American team ever to win the team World Championship, also in 1979.

                            Mr. Nieman was a two-time Sullivan Award Finalist (1980 and '81), an award given to the top amateur athlete in the United States, and he also held the world record in Pentathlon swimming from 1976 to 1980. Most recently he served as a Modern Pentathlon judge at the 1992 Summer Olympic Games in Barcelona, Spain.


                            https://hinsdalecentralfoundation.or...robert-nieman/
                            Nieman is the only American man to win a World Championship in modern pentathlon, back in 1979. Also "made" the 1980 Olympic team in fencing in addition to modern pentathlon.

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                            • #44
                              They could add wrestling as an event, trying to get the roots of the ancient pentathlon, which ended with wrestling.

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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by bambam1729 View Post
                                They could add wrestling as an event, trying to get the roots of the ancient pentathlon, which ended with wrestling.
                                that would mandate all entrants being the same weight

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