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  • No sub 22 again

    Why can't any sprinter break 22 seconds? This used to be a regular occurance in the 80's and 90's. The last woman to do it was Marian Jones back in 2000, she ran 21.84 to win the Olympics. I thought for sure the winner of this race would go under 22; they have a great track and great wheather.

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    Re: No sub 22 again

    Well maybe, just maybe, it is somehow related to the fact that the womens' performances in nearly EVERY event are considerably below the level of the bad-old-1980s. Just a theory, of course.

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    • #3
      Re: No sub 22 again

      Marion is probably the most talented woman sprinter ever and it took all her talent and preparation to get under 22. Without some 'aid', it is going to be a very rare occurence. White and Felix could do it with more work and the right conditions.

      Most of those who have done it in the past, most notably the E. Europeans, later admitted they were 'aided.'

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      • #4
        Re: No sub 22 again

        "Just a theorist"

        Be careful what you are implying. Have you forgotten the great Evelyn, not to mention Gwen, Ottey, Cuthbert, Grace Jackson.

        These were some prime "clean" sub 22 types.

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        • #5
          Re: No sub 22 again

          Why does it seem that every European woman who ran fast is accused of using drugs. I would say that Heike Drecshler who ran 21.71 was clean. No way she would have stayed in the sport as long as she did without great ability. I don't remember any ommisions or positive tests by female, European sprinters in the last decade

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          • #6
            Re: No sub 22 again

            How come no one mentions flo jo when they talk about the east german records et al.

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            • #7
              Re: No sub 22 again

              that was part of the "bad old 80s" as far as I'm concerned
              why don't people pronounce vowels anymore

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              • #8
                Re: No sub 22 again

                "How come no one mentions flo jo when they talk about the east german records et al."

                Okay, I'll mention her if you want: no way on God's green earth was she clean.

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                • #9
                  Re: No sub 22 again

                  Probably up to 1987 when she and Ottey were on par.

                  Post '87 I think not.

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                  • #10
                    Re: No sub 22 again

                    Next year I am predicting a flood of sub 22's.
                    We have some great young talent coming up not to mention the return of Marion. Kellie White will certainly not lay down and die.

                    The Russian silver medallist appears as if she will be very difficult next year, as will a returning Veronica Campbell who seemed on course to run sub 22 this year until felled by injury.
                    Felix looks also as if she will be a handfull if she peaks properly.

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                    • #11
                      Re: No sub 22 again

                      >Kellie White will certainly not lay down and die

                      Did you have anybody else in mind with that vivid mental picture?

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                      • #12
                        Re: No sub 22 again

                        Yes, I'm sorry, I agree that you don't HAVE to be juiced to go under 22, but on the other hand, I'm willing to bet that the majority of 'regulars' under 22 were 'aided.'

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                        • #13
                          Re: No sub 22 again

                          Edwards(improving), Kapachinskaya(the new Privalova), Bailey(injured in prelims, did you see her last 50 in the 100 final), Arron (if she returns to 200), Muna Lee

                          With regards to the young talent certainly Veronica Campbell, Allison Felix, Aleen Bailey and Muna Lee seem on course to be sub 22 types sooner rather than later.

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                          • #14
                            Re: No sub 22 again

                            Wait and see how Michele Collins recovers from her injuries next year. She ran a U.S. record 22.14 at the indoor World Championships in March, hurting herself (hamstring?) in the process. There was a possibility for her dipping under 22.00 this summer, right up until it became clear that her injury was serious.

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                            • #15
                              Re: No sub 22 again

                              Don't think Aleen will go sub 22. She starts too poorly. Veronica has the potential. the other little girl that could do it if she stays focussed on athletics is Anneisha McLaughlin, in the next 4-5 years)but we will see
                              why don't people pronounce vowels anymore

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