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  • Shunsuke Izumiya. 13.06 (NR). Currently ranks #3 in the world.
    Japan has never had any man in the Olympic 110mH final. That could change this year.

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    • Originally posted by TN1965 View Post
      Shunsuke Izumiya. 13.06 (NR). Currently ranks #3 in the world.
      Japan has never had any man in the Olympic 110mH final. That could change this year.
      Impressive run but he flagged he had the technical capacity with a 13.05 +5.2!! about a month ago. That's really hard to do and, in fact, that's the fastest run ever with more than 5m/s followed by a 13.12 +5.7 by David Oliver.

      Now that he's moving into his peak, he's running that fast without a big push and he's only 21 (b. 2000). In fact, there's not many that have run 13.06 at the same or younger age and all, except one, achieved sub-13 PBs in their career:

      Renaldo NEHEMIAH
      Omar MCLEOD
      Grant HOLLOWAY
      Devon ALLEN
      Dayron ROBLES
      Ladji DOUCOURÉ
      Xiang LIU
      Daniel ROBERTS (only 13.00 from 2019, so far)

      That's pretty impressive company. It will be interesting to see his progression over the next few years.




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      • Luzern startlists are up. Vetter, Weber, Hoffmann, Seifert in the mJT and WvN.

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        • Originally posted by toenail View Post
          Imo it's that they don't rather than can't, speaking of just the distance. To do it regularly, yes, experience helps. If it was a more popular event it would attract more talents and they'd specialize from a younger age, then achieve more sooner.
          I'm not sure that more competitors by itself would change the age distribution of performances at all, just the numbers in each age group.

          As far as for specialising younger, I'd need to see your evidence for that because the physical development models I'm aware of don't tend to support that.

          Even a late starter like Mac Wilkins still went 70+ as did throwers emerging from highly structured youth programs such as Schmidt and Schult. Their best throws are still all in the same ballpark allowing for the vagaries of wind.

          I even looked at an open skill sport in the form of Australian Rugby League. There is a heavy emphasis on strength development but not as extreme as for throws. This, and the variety of onfield roles lends itself more to the presence of U-23 athletes who have natural speed and strength.

          Most of them have been playing since the age of 8 and in development programs from the early teens. As a group, they form somewhere between 25-30% of elite team members.

          However, when I looked at a range of performance statistics, both offensive and defensive, you find that U-23 athletes only comprise 8.3% of top ten places on those measures. It shows that even with a relatively high presence, their actual performances can't match those of athletes just 1 to 4 years older.

          It's a tale as old as time and applies to all except a few freaks, like Ceh. Even in women's gymnastics, they are finding that older athletes are able to exceed the performance standards of the teenagers because they don't get dumped too early anymore.

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          • Originally posted by ceil View Post
            Luzern startlists are up. Vetter, Weber, Hoffmann, Seifert in the mJT and WvN.
            In addition, Ta Lou v Kambundji v Schippers v Kayla White in the w100m. It's going to be interesting to see how Ta Lou has progressed, and whether Kambundji can win on home soil. Also whether Schippers can show any sign of improvement. She also goes in the 200m later, which will also be very interesting, as Namibian Beatrice Masilingi also runs. Schippers has been average at 100m this year, but poor in the 200m, her supposed better event. GER 100/200 champ Burghardt was trying to get the 200m standard here, possibly her last chance, but the weather is due to be rainy and potentially stormy.

            EDIT: as I posted this, Ta Lou was added to the 200m lists as well.
            Last edited by Wiederganger; 06-29-2021, 09:44 AM.

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            • Originally posted by toenail View Post
              Imo it's that they don't rather than can't, speaking of just the distance. To do it regularly, yes, experience helps. If it was a more popular event it would attract more talents and they'd specialize from a younger age, then achieve more sooner.
              Plenty of Europeans start specialising in discus at the beginning of their teens.

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              • Wayde Van Niekerk 44.87 in Luzern

                Race video: https://youtu.be/-Zbva3P8PbY

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                • Swedish Team Champs. Halmstad, SWE

                  mDT
                  1. Daniel Ståhl, 68.65
                  2. Simon Pettersson, 65.23

                  mSP
                  1. Wictor Petersson, 20.93

                  mLJ
                  1. Thobias Montler, 8.07 (+0,1)

                  wHJ
                  1. Maja Nilsson, 1.96 (1.76 O, 1.82 O, 1.88 O, 1.92 O, 1.96 O)

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                  • Originally posted by ItalianFan View Post
                    Italian Champs

                    Dal Molin 13.27 (+1.2)....New National Record. The first chrono appeared live was 13.41, then "rounded" to 13.27...
                    Fofana 13.42 PB
                    Perini 13.59

                    Bogliolo won the female race with 12.90
                    Windy 7.94 for Randazzo in the long jump.
                    70.34 for Fantini in the Hammer throw. She should use as her second score in the ranking.

                    Scotti wins 400 (46.13), ahead of Aceti (46.21), Re (46.27) and Lopez (46.31)
                    Mangione wins with 52.09. Chigbolou (52.90) and Lukudo (52.95) follow.

                    Men 100: Jacobs 10.01
                    Women 100: Bongiorni 11.27
                    I might have missed this but where is F. Tortu? It kind of raised my eyebrows when he didn't run in the Rome/Florence Diamond League. Is he hurt and/or will he be in Tokyo? Asking this without knowing how Italy selects its team.

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                    • Originally posted by ATK View Post

                      Race video: https://youtu.be/6y-YVZeAsg0

                      I know this may not look great following Thomas/Prandini/SAFP/Jackson/ETH, but I think this bodes very well for her. This wasn't perfect conditions like Eugene or with any competition like Kingston. And she is coming off the 400m yesterday. I think she will still be in the mix for gold.

                      But honestly, based on the Tokyo schedule, I think she should double. The 400m seems like a relative "walk in the park" so even if she misses a win in the 200m, she has more than enough rest between the 400m semis and then finals. (all pending Naser status)
                      Agree with this. 22.18 is actually quite a bit better than I thought she would run coming off a slight injury + no competition. She will be ready to go sub-22 for sure.

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                      • Ta Lou looked very good in the cool wet Luzern evening, running away in 11.09 (-0.4) Kambundji was 2nd (11.24) White 3rd (11.31) and Schippers just 4th (11.41). I think Ta Lou will be the 10.8 athlete she usually is come Tokyo, which is always an outside threat.

                        I'm running out of excuses for Schippers, but the organisers did do her bad here; she was assigned lane 7, with Atcho in 8 (who finished in 12.01 so was no competition) but lane 6 was empty after Ombissa-Dzangue pulled out, so she was away from the rest of the field. She then DNS the 200m later (neither did Ta Lou).

                        The rumours are that Schippers will not run her usual 100/200/4x1 schedule because of her continued injury problems, but they will see come Tokyo.

                        Masilingi ran a PB of 22.67, with Burghardt 2nd in 23.16. The race was held at 21:49 and it was wet and cool, so her time was very decent, and worth probably more like 22.4-22.5

                        EDIT: It seems Schippers has a doubled herniated disc.
                        Last edited by Wiederganger; 06-30-2021, 08:12 AM.

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                        • Originally posted by Trickstat View Post

                          Plenty of Europeans start specialising in discus at the beginning of their teens.
                          define plenty. I'd say it's more like hoop leftovers

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                          • Originally posted by toenail View Post

                            define plenty. I'd say it's more like hoop leftovers
                            In 2019, the last full season we had, 348 13 and 14 year old boys threw a 1.25Kg discus over 23m in the UK. That is nearly three-quarters of the number of UK males aged 17 upwards who threw a 2Kg discus over 28m that year (466). Remember that the UK has club track and field competition for adult athletes (although it is not as healthy as it was 30 or 40 years ago).

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                            • Włodarczyk 77.93 in the second throw on the Szewinski meeting. First throw was 75.83. That's incredible progress with the last meetings! Gold in Tokyo?

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                              • Originally posted by oneAndOnly View Post
                                Włodarczyk 77.93 in the second throw on the Szewinski meeting. First throw was 75.83. That's incredible progress with the last meetings! Gold in Tokyo?
                                Now she's just 8 feet behind DeAnna Price!
                                LOL

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