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  • #46
    Originally posted by ATK View Post

    Completely Agreed.

    And considering whats happened with McNeal, Richardson, Mboma and Masilingi, I'm pretty disappointed specifically in how Houlihan, the only person found to have actually take a performance enhancing substance, was able to do a whole sympathy rollout about how she did nothing wrong and the system is messed up.
    It still didn't work....she is out for 4 years... and will soon be forgotten.

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    • #47
      Originally posted by Conor Dary View Post

      It still didn't work....she is out for 4 years... and will soon be forgotten.
      Not by me!
      I don't forget people who are two time American Record holders---in World Class times!
      And a true track fan shouldn't either!

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      • #48
        Originally posted by ATK View Post

        Completely Agreed.

        And considering whats happened with McNeal, Richardson, Mboma and Masilingi, I'm pretty disappointed specifically in how Houlihan, the only person found to have actually take a performance enhancing substance, was able to do a whole sympathy rollout about how she did nothing wrong and the system is messed up.

        These 4 athletes have wayyyyyyy more clout to complain about the system yet have not even attempted to do so. So many things are not right here.
        Those cases have almost nothing in common
        the two young Namibian runners likely have too high testosterone levels to compete in the 400, but can compete in the 200, steeplechase and most other events. Nothing they did wrong and very unfortunate but overall fair
        SCR knowingly used a banned substance which even though not performance enhancing still on the banned list. To her credit she admitted it.
        McNeil (and to some extent Coleman) had already violated the whereabouts rules (McNeil already served a years ban and Coleman let off on a technicality) and then violated them again. McNeil tried to deceive the testers and then when it didn’t work blamed them. Coleman did the same but at least he didn’t try to compete at the trials. Personally I was totally surprised that McNeil was allowed to compete at all at the trials.

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        • #49
          Originally posted by tm71 View Post
          Personally I was totally surprised that McNeil was allowed to compete at all at the trials.
          Remember that Demi Payne was allowed to compete at the last Olympic Trials after failing a drug test for steroids!

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          • #50
            Originally posted by ATK View Post

            Completely Agreed.

            And considering whats happened with McNeal, Richardson, Mboma and Masilingi, I'm pretty disappointed specifically in how Houlihan, the only person found to have actually take a performance enhancing substance, was able to do a whole sympathy rollout about how she did nothing wrong and the system is messed up.

            These 4 athletes have wayyyyyyy more clout to complain about the system yet have not even attempted to do so. So many things are not right here.
            These dubious whereabouts violations, and Richardson's ridiculous weed suspension, while actual performance enhancing dopers whine and wriggle out of their deserved penalties, shows just how lost and subject to mission drift WADA and USADA have become. The anti-doping regime was humiliated and exposed by the systematic Russian doping deceptions, and now they are casting about and it appears that it may never really recover.

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            • #51
              Originally posted by polevaultpower View Post

              Remember that Demi Payne was allowed to compete at the last Olympic Trials after failing a drug test for steroids!
              Let us not forget Butch Reynolds at the 1992 OT in New Orleans.

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              • #52
                Originally posted by aaronk View Post

                Not by me!
                I don't forget people who are two time American Record holders---in World Class times!
                And a true track fan shouldn't either!
                I don't forget folks who get busted for whereabouts once and then again five years later after altering medical records . . .

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                • #53
                  Originally posted by Al in NYC View Post

                  Unless the scenario and facts laid out in this New York Times story are substantially wrong, this is yet another avoidable black mark and really bad look for the sport.
                  It was indeed totally avoidable. If only Ms McNeal would stop missing tests and tampering with evidence.

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                  • #54
                    Originally posted by ATK View Post

                    Completely Agreed.

                    And considering whats happened with McNeal, Richardson, Mboma and Masilingi, I'm pretty disappointed specifically in how Houlihan, the only person found to have actually take a performance enhancing substance, was able to do a whole sympathy rollout about how she did nothing wrong and the system is messed up.

                    These 4 athletes have wayyyyyyy more clout to complain about the system yet have not even attempted to do so. So many things are not right here.
                    HUH??? Brianna literally did a whole interview with the NYT telling the world about her abortion to garner sympathy (And disguise the fact her ban is for evidence tampering not missing a test).

                    SCR was on the Today show this morning being interviewed about her mental health and mother's death.

                    How was Shelby's 'sympathy rollout' any more blatant.

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                    • #55
                      Originally posted by Flumpy View Post

                      HUH??? Brianna literally did a whole interview with the NYT telling the world about her abortion to garner sympathy (And disguise the fact her ban is for evidence tampering not missing a test).

                      SCR was on the Today show this morning being interviewed about her mental health and mother's death.

                      How was Shelby's 'sympathy rollout' any more blatant.
                      All pretty pathetic....

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                      • #56
                        Originally posted by polevaultpower View Post

                        Remember that Demi Payne was allowed to compete at the last Olympic Trials after failing a drug test for steroids!
                        Given that case along with Reynolds in 92 and Jerome young in 2000.

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                        • #57
                          Originally posted by Al in NYC View Post

                          These dubious whereabouts violations, and Richardson's ridiculous weed suspension, while actual performance enhancing dopers whine and wriggle out of their deserved penalties, shows just how lost and subject to mission drift WADA and USADA have become. The anti-doping regime was humiliated and exposed by the systematic Russian doping deceptions, and now they are casting about and it appears that it may never really recover.

                          Or you could just blame those failing tests and breaking rules.

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                          • #58
                            Originally posted by tm71 View Post

                            Given that case along with Reynolds in 92 and Jerome young in 2000.
                            Reynolds won a court case...Primo ignored him...

                            https://www.entsportslawjournal.com/article/id/705/
                            Last edited by Conor Dary; 07-02-2021, 05:33 PM.

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                            • #59
                              Originally posted by Conor Dary View Post

                              Reynolds won a court case...Primo ignored him...
                              Year that was well before the days of USADA, WADA and CAS

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                              • #60
                                Originally posted by tm71 View Post

                                Year that was well before the days of USADA, WADA and CAS
                                Everything then, including arbitration, was controlled by the IAAF which was controlled by Primo. Reynolds didn't have a chance...

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