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  • NotDutra5
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    Originally posted by Atticus View Post

    H1 - McGee, Price, Hurta
    H2 - Martinez, Watson, Mu, Green
    H3 - Allie W, Meyer, Ajee' W
    H4 - Edwards, Johnson, Southerland
    H5 - Rogers, Akins, Grace
    Mu in there with the human bowling ball has me concerned.

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  • aaronk
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    Originally posted by Atticus View Post

    H1 - McGee, Price, Hurta
    H2 - Martinez, Watson, Mu, Green
    H3 - Allie W, Meyer, Ajee' W
    H4 - Edwards, Johnson, Southerland
    H5 - Rogers, Akins, Grace
    I don't see any of the trio of High Schoolers in your list of top contenders!
    Juliette Whittaker
    Roisin Willis
    Sophia Gorriaran
    Are you dismissing ALL of them as not even making it to the Semis??

    BTW, Whittaker is in Heat 1, Willis in Heat 3, and Gorriaran in Heat 5!
    Last edited by aaronk; 06-23-2021, 04:24 PM.

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  • Atticus
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    Originally posted by RunningInCircles View Post
    The women's 800 heat sheets are out.
    H1 - McGee, Price, Hurta
    H2 - Martinez, Watson, Mu, Green
    H3 - Allie W, Meyer, Ajee' W
    H4 - Edwards, Johnson, Southerland
    H5 - Rogers, Akins, Grace

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  • RunningInCircles
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    The women's 800 heat sheets are out. What is normally 32 women (4 heats of 8 women) grew this year to 46 women (5 heats of 9/10 women). But since 3 scratched (Elle Purrier St. Pierre, Shannon Osika, Heather MacLean) there ended up being 3 heats of 9 women and 2 heats of 8 women.

    Only 2 Auto Qualifiers! - Because of the large field there will be only 2 auto qualifiers from each of the 5 heats, which should make the 1st round very competitive. In fact, this event might have the most interesting 1st round of the trials.

    Some of the interesting stories in this event are:
    Old vs Young - 3 veterans in possible their last trials (Brenda Martinez, Kate Grace, Chanelle Price) vs 3 high schoolers in their first (Juliette Whittaker, Roisin Willis, Sophia Gorriaran).

    Battle of the NCAA Stars - In an unusual twist, entered in the 800 are the NCAA fastest times this year in the 400 (Athing Mu), the 800 (Michaela Meyer), and the 1500 (Sage Hurta).

    Bouncing Back - After finishing last in their previous races, Nikki Hiltz (last in the trials 1500) and Amber Tanner (last in the NCAA 800) are looking to redeem themselves.

    A. Wilson - Which one to root for? Ajee or Allie or Avi'Tal ?

    Doublers - Not content with running just the 1500, five of the 1500 finalists are also in the 800 - Cory McGee, Helen Schlachtenhaufen, Nikki Hiltz, Sinclaire Johnson, Rebecca Mehra. (Shannon Osika, who barely missed the 1500 team by .09, apparently decided she couldn't make the team in the 800 either, and scratched.)

    It should be interesting.

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  • _Jay
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    ☝🏾☝🏾☝🏾 Thank You RunningInCircles. Lol.

    like Dutra mentioned....somebody falling in a crowded pack may be more of a concern than Mu being out kicked by several competitors.

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  • RunningInCircles
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    Originally posted by Atticus View Post
    I just had a horrible thought. We know Mu doesn't have a change of gear at the end (she usually doesn't need one!). What if she tries to save herself in the semi and gets outkicked by a buncha fast-finishers!

    Rogers all the way down in 6th?
    Who exactly are these "fast-finishers" that you're talking about? Hannah Green? Sabrina Southerland? Brenda Martinez? Kate Grace? The top 3 in the semi automatically make the final, so Mu would have to be outkicked by at least 3 women. I don't think there will be 3 women in her semi who can outkick her.

    Even if Ajee Wilson and Raevyn Rogers were in Mu's semi, that's still only 2 women who MIGHT be able to outkick Mu.

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  • odelltrclan
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    Originally posted by Atticus View Post
    I just had a horrible thought. We know Mu doesn't have a change of gear at the end (she usually doesn't need one!). What if she tries to save herself in the semi and gets outkicked by a buncha fast-finishers!

    Rogers all the way down in 6th?
    Are you sure? Has she really been challenged when it counted and had to dig deeper?

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  • Atticus
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    Originally posted by Atticus View Post
    The indoor NCAA 400 was an eye-opener to me. Even when cut off at the 200, I still assumed Mu could easily pass Roberts on the second lap. Never happened. Yes, indoor is different, but as awesome as Mu is (and she is), she is vulnerable to a kick.
    Originally posted by NotDutra5 View Post
    I think you're overstating that particular scenario which is much much less likely in an outdoor 800m. If she has to accelerate in the last 50m she could have a problem (such as what Brandon Miller had to do last night) but, other than that she should be fine. I'm more concerned with a fall occurring.
    I re-refer you to my statement. That's my only point. I do expect Mu will win.


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  • NotDutra5
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    Originally posted by Atticus View Post
    The indoor NCAA 400 was an eye-opener to me. Even when cut off at the 200, I still assumed Mu could easily pass Roberts on the second lap. Never happened. Yes, indoor is different, but as awesome as Mu is (and she is), she is vulnerable to a kick.
    I think you're overstating that particular scenario which is much much less likely in an outdoor 800m. If she has to accelerate in the last 50m she could have a problem (such as what Brandon Miller had to do last night) but, other than that she should be fine. I'm more concerned with a fall occurring.

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  • 26mi235
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    Originally posted by Atticus View Post
    The indoor NCAA 400 was an eye-opener to me. Even when cut off at the 200, I still assumed Mu could easily pass Roberts on the second lap. Never happened. Yes, indoor is different, but as awesome as Mu is (and she is), she is vulnerable to a kick.
    She ran a 1:57 off of a 60 second opener. Tell me how many of the runners here have finished in 57. How many of them have run a 48r. It seems that people are thinking that she has not grown at all, and has not learned anything in the last three months. She might decide to run ahead of traffic, especially if the pace is slow in the heats; then she can judge how hard she needs to go to qualify. A fast start in a heat might lead the others to no risk blowing up and not qualifying.

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  • _Jay
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    Originally posted by Atticus View Post
    The indoor NCAA 400 was an eye-opener to me. Even when cut off at the 200, I still assumed Mu could easily pass Roberts on the second lap. Never happened. Yes, indoor is different, but as awesome as Mu is (and she is), she is vulnerable to a kick.
    Completely different ball game indoors.

    Roberts when healthy is a high 22.x, 200m runner. Nobody in this 800 field is holding off Mu, in a slower pace race where she also still has juice to kick.

    There are no Semenya’s out there.....

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  • booond
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    Originally posted by Atticus View Post
    The indoor NCAA 400 was an eye-opener to me. Even when cut off at the 200, I still assumed Mu could easily pass Roberts on the second lap. Never happened. Yes, indoor is different, but as awesome as Mu is (and she is), she is vulnerable to a kick.
    Indoors is a different animal.

    Roberts ran an almost perfect race against a superior athlete by getting to the corner first and Mu showed that she was a freshman by waiting instead of pushing past Roberts. She accelerated then decelerated and allowed Roberts to move out and make her uncomfortable on the straights. Nothing in this race showed a vulnerability to a kick but a younger runner taken to school by a more experienced one in a different environment. If you haven't noticed the outdoor oval is twice as large and there is more room on the straightaways and curves.
    Last edited by booond; 06-18-2021, 05:22 AM.

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  • Atticus
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    Originally posted by _Jay View Post
    Think we’re overstating the lack of “a gear” here in this 800m. Even with that, she’s obviously the fastest in the field over 400....I would imagine over 200m as well. I don’t know who in the field is going to outkick her or be able to hold her off in a slower paced race. 🤷🏾‍♂️
    The indoor NCAA 400 was an eye-opener to me. Even when cut off at the 200, I still assumed Mu could easily pass Roberts on the second lap. Never happened. Yes, indoor is different, but as awesome as Mu is (and she is), she is vulnerable to a kick.

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  • _Jay
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    Originally posted by Atticus View Post
    I just had a horrible thought. We know Mu doesn't have a change of gear at the end (she usually doesn't need one!). What if she tries to save herself in the semi and gets outkicked by a buncha fast-finishers!

    Rogers all the way down in 6th?
    Think we’re overstating the lack of “a gear” here in this 800m. Even with that, she’s obviously the fastest in the field over 400....I would imagine over 200m as well. I don’t know who in the field is going to outkick her or be able to hold her off in a slower paced race. 🤷🏾‍♂️

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  • RunningInCircles
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    Originally posted by gh View Post
    i think she should have stuck to the 400
    I agree. A race in lanes would be easier for a relatively inexperienced Mu in both the trials and the Olympics than an 800 with potential problems like getting boxed in by another runner, and all that pushing and shoving. (But enough about Halimah Nakaayi.)

    If not just the 400, then Mu should have doubled. With the 800 only, if she has a bad race in the trials and misses the team, she won't even have a chance to get an Olympic medal in the 4x4.

    Plus, if she qualified in both the 400 and 800, then she could always decide after the trials to only do one in the Olympics.

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