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    C19 positives causing some quarantine at the Trials?

  • #2
    more than a rumor... this from USATF's recap of yesterday, which I only just read:

    Two additional COVID-19 positives at U.S. Olympic Track & Field Trials


    One athlete and one non-participant have returned positive results for COVID-19 in the pre-event testing protocols leading up to the U.S. Olympic Track & Field Trials. Both people who tested positive were asymptomatic and fully vaccinated. Both individuals were immediately placed into the isolation protocol. Contact tracing was performed and no additional Olympic Trials participants were affected.

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    • #3
      https://twitter.com/JoshCox/status/1...717687299?s=20

      "Three total, all vaccinated. One athlete, one coach, one official. And another non-vaccinated athlete was in close, sustained contact with one of the individuals. All are now in CDC & Lane County mandated quarantine for 10 days & will miss the Trials. Athletes need to be careful."

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      • #4
        Wow...

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        • #5
          I spoke to someone who knows one of the athletes. Fully vaccinated, very careful. Really heartbreaking.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by polevaultpower View Post
            I spoke to someone who knows one of the athletes. Fully vaccinated, very careful. Really heartbreaking.
            No chance of a false positive?

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Atticus View Post
              No chance of a false positive?
              Depending on testing volume it's not unreasonable to suspect this with Veritor's rapid PCRs. False positive rates are dependent on how many people in the community have the disease, but there's a false positive rate of about 1-3% for Veritor's rapid if there's not a lot of circulating coronavirus in the tested population. Hopefully they verified these with a regular swab? Hopefully?

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              • #8
                If time allows, there is an allowance for more testing to be done, if asymptomatic.

                https://www.flipsnack.com/USATF/usat...full-view.html

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by polevaultpower View Post
                  I spoke to someone who knows one of the athletes. Fully vaccinated, very careful. Really heartbreaking.
                  This exact circumstance is going to wreak havoc on society unless the authorities come to their senses. IF the experts are correct, there is no reason to test people who are fully vaccinated. Even if they are positive, the experts say they will be asymptomatic (the main point of getting the vaccine) and won't pass it on to others. Why would anyone who is vaccinated shell out a ton of money to go somewhere (say the Eugene Worlds) if Lane County can put them in quarantine
                  with no recourse?
                  If this continues, the only alternatives for society are: 1) force everyone to be vaccinated or 2) permanently quarantine the unvaccinated. Either alternative is draconian and fraught with problems. And most likely impossible to do.
                  Last edited by J Rorick; 06-20-2021, 07:16 PM.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by J Rorick View Post
                    If this continues, the only alternatives for society are: 1) force everyone to be vaccinated or 2) permanently quarantine the unvaccinated. Either alternative is draconian and fraught with problems. And most likely impossible to do.
                    Impossible? Not in China

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by J Rorick View Post

                      This exact circumstance is going to wreak havoc on society unless the authorities come to their senses. IF the experts are correct, there is no reason to test people who are fully vaccinated. Even if they are positive, the experts say they will be asymptomatic (the main point of getting the vaccine) and won't pass it on to others. Why would anyone who is vaccinated shell out a ton of money to go somewhere (say the Eugene Worlds) if Lane County can put them in quarantine
                      with no recourse?
                      If this continues, the only alternatives for society are: 1) force everyone to be vaccinated or 2) permanently quarantine the unvaccinated. Either alternative is draconian and fraught with problems. And most likely impossible to do.
                      What? With the best two about 5% get COVID under 'standard' conditions, but the new variants increase in the positives, although not too much is known. Further, they tend not to get badly sick, many are asymptomatic; in addition, the viral load is lower so they pass it on less and with lower viral loads. However the newest variant is 40% more transmissible than the previous variant that was 50% more transmissible than the original US strain (these numbers are approximate).

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                      • #12
                        Simone Biles said that her biggest fear is testing positive for COBID-19 on the eve of the Olympics.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by J Rorick View Post

                          This exact circumstance is going to wreak havoc on society unless the authorities come to their senses. IF the experts are correct, there is no reason to test people who are fully vaccinated. Even if they are positive, the experts say they will be asymptomatic (the main point of getting the vaccine) and won't pass it on to others. Why would anyone who is vaccinated shell out a ton of money to go somewhere (say the Eugene Worlds) if Lane County can put them in quarantine
                          with no recourse?
                          If this continues, the only alternatives for society are: 1) force everyone to be vaccinated or 2) permanently quarantine the unvaccinated. Either alternative is draconian and fraught with problems. And most likely impossible to do.
                          Just to be clear, spectators are not being COVID tested here.

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                          • #14
                            With this being an outdoor competition, they should let vaccinated asymptomatic athletes compete anyway. Just find a way to have them keep their distance while they're waiting to compete, and isolate them when they're not competing. If they're a thrower or jumper, have them sit on a bench far from other athletes when they're waiting between throws/jumps.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by 18.99s View Post
                              With this being an outdoor competition, they should let vaccinated asymptomatic athletes compete anyway. Just find a way to have them keep their distance while they're waiting to compete, and isolate them when they're not competing. If they're a thrower or jumper, have them sit on a bench far from other athletes when they're waiting between throws/jumps.
                              Maybe have a third 10,000 heat for the asymptomatic.

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