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    High Jump Injustice at the Olympic Trials?

    The Women’s High Jump Results:
    1.Vashti Cunningham 6-5
    2.Inika McPherson 6-4
    3.Nicole Greene 6-4 – set a personal record
    4.Rachel McCoy 6-4

    The Olympic team will be Vashti, Rachel, and Ty Butts Townsend. These three ladies have made the Olympic standard of 6-5. However, Ty jumped only 5-11 ½ at the trials and failed to make the finals. I’m not sure what year Ty jumped 6-5 it may have been 2019.

    Questions:
    Who’s making this decision?
    If it’s a committee vote - Can the committee enter someone who hasn’t made the Olympic qualifying standard?
    With three ladies clearing 6-4 – how does someone who cleared only 5-11 ½ makes this Olympic team?

    If you feel this selection process can be improved, please share your recommendations.


  • #2
    What were the rules for selection going in to the OT?
    If the decision was based on the rules, then McPherson and Greene have nothing to complain about, given they never met the Olympic standard.

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    • #3
      By my records (& research), the best HJ by Tynita Butts (-Townsend) is 6-4 (1.93), which she's reached a few times!
      Her best in 2021 is 6-2.25.
      Where do you get a 6-5 for her?

      Also, unless USATF is going to add her (or has added her), I don't see her name on the list for Tokyo!

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      • #4
        I think the qualifying period goes back to 2019.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by GaryC View Post
          High Jump Injustice at the Olympic Trials?

          The Women’s High Jump Results:
          1.Vashti Cunningham 6-5
          2.Inika McPherson 6-4
          3.Nicole Greene 6-4 – set a personal record
          4.Rachel McCoy 6-4

          The Olympic team will be Vashti, Rachel, and Ty Butts Townsend. These three ladies have made the Olympic standard of 6-5. However, Ty jumped only 5-11 ½ at the trials and failed to make the finals. I’m not sure what year Ty jumped 6-5 it may have been 2019.

          Questions:
          Who’s making this decision?
          If it’s a committee vote - Can the committee enter someone who hasn’t made the Olympic qualifying standard?
          With three ladies clearing 6-4 – how does someone who cleared only 5-11 ½ makes this Olympic team?

          If you feel this selection process can be improved, please share your recommendations.
          Going into the Trials, only three U.S. women had met the OG standard of 1.96 - Cunningham, McCoy and Jelena Rowe

          OT final:
          1- Cunningham - 1.96
          2 - McPherson, 3 - Greene & 4 - McCoy - 1.93

          Butts-Townsend - 1.82 in qualifying round
          Rowe - NH in qualifying round

          By virtue of her NH in qualifying, Rowe eliminated herself from consideration because she did not establish a place finish.

          Cunningham goes by virtue of having the standard and winning the OT
          McCoy is also in by virtue of having the standard

          In the final WA rankings, Butts-Townsend was #30, McPherson & Greene were not in the top 32

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          • #6
            Originally posted by gm View Post

            Going into the Trials, only three U.S. women had met the OG standard of 1.96 - Cunningham, McCoy and Jelena Rowe

            OT final:
            1- Cunningham - 1.96
            2 - McPherson, 3 - Greene & 4 - McCoy - 1.93

            Butts-Townsend - 1.82 in qualifying round
            Rowe - NH in qualifying round

            By virtue of her NH in qualifying, Rowe eliminated herself from consideration because she did not establish a place finish.

            Cunningham goes by virtue of having the standard and winning the OT
            McCoy is also in by virtue of having the standard

            In the final WA rankings, Butts-Townsend was #30, McPherson & Greene were not in the top 32
            When were the final rankings? Because Im seeing Butts-Townsend as #21 and McPherson as #27.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by ATK View Post

              When were the final rankings? Because Im seeing Butts-Townsend as #21 and McPherson as #27.
              https://www.worldathletics.org/stats...entId=10229526

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              • #8
                The controversy is that McPherson is not currently ranked high enough, but if USATF declined Butt-Townsend's invite, McPherson would be ranked high enough. She is the next person on the rankings list from all countries.

                This definitely came up in the discussions on this message board as a scenario that was not clearly addressed, and I think the handful of people here who understood the scenario prayed that it wouldn't happen.

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                • #9
                  I say jump off in the middle of Times Square. Primetime television.

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                  • #10
                    This whole Road to Tokyo page seems to have been taken down. At least for now.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by gm View Post

                      Going into the Trials, only three U.S. women had met the OG standard of 1.96 - Cunningham, McCoy and Jelena Rowe

                      OT final:
                      1- Cunningham - 1.96
                      2 - McPherson, 3 - Greene & 4 - McCoy - 1.93

                      Butts-Townsend - 1.82 in qualifying round
                      Rowe - NH in qualifying round

                      By virtue of her NH in qualifying, Rowe eliminated herself from consideration because she did not establish a place finish.

                      Cunningham goes by virtue of having the standard and winning the OT
                      McCoy is also in by virtue of having the standard

                      In the final WA rankings, Butts-Townsend was #30, McPherson & Greene were not in the top 32
                      gm, what is with the claim that some athletes are able to use marks from 2018? Inika has made this claim in several of her social media videos.

                      Also, USATF, according to Inika, said that Ty "took a jump", and therefore gained her eligibility. How is this any different for Rowe? I understand the NH, but language matters, especially in issues that could see the inclusion of a lawyer... and I'm not insinuating anything, just bringing up a point.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by sprintjump View Post

                        gm, what is with the claim that some athletes are able to use marks from 2018? Inika has made this claim in several of her social media videos.
                        I'm guessing it is this part of Rule 1.2.4 at https://www.worldathletics.org/world...g-rules/basics

                        "In order to ensure that performances achieved at the Area Senior Outdoor Championships are calculated in the Rankings, the latest editions of the Area Senior Outdoor Championships are included in the Rankings calculation regardless of whether they fall in the Events’ respective Ranking Period, given that they were held within 3 full calendar years (e.g. after 1 January in the 3rd year prior to the date of the Rankings."

                        For European jumpers, this would have been the 2018 Euro Champs. For anyone in our part of the world, it would have been the 2018 NACAC Championships in Toronto.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by gm View Post

                          I'm guessing it is this part of Rule 1.2.4 at https://www.worldathletics.org/world...g-rules/basics

                          "In order to ensure that performances achieved at the Area Senior Outdoor Championships are calculated in the Rankings, the latest editions of the Area Senior Outdoor Championships are included in the Rankings calculation regardless of whether they fall in the Events’ respective Ranking Period, given that they were held within 3 full calendar years (e.g. after 1 January in the 3rd year prior to the date of the Rankings."

                          For European jumpers, this would have been the 2018 Euro Champs. For anyone in our part of the world, it would have been the 2018 NACAC Championships in Toronto.
                          Got it. Thanks

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                          • #14
                            At the end of the day the reality is that she just didn't jump high enough

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Tuariki View Post
                              At the end of the day the reality is that she just didn't jump high enough
                              At the end of the day, it's who beats whom.

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