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  • gm
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    Originally posted by guru View Post


    Yes. Apparently the rule was changed to allow coaches to pick two alternates irrespective of their individual event status(previously had to be a team member in some event). This came as news to me, and I'd be curious to know if anyone(perhaps polevaultpower) would know why this rule was quietly amended this year.
    It was in place for Doha -- https://www.flipsnack.com/USATF/usat...full-view.html

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  • NotDutra5
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    Originally posted by GHM View Post

    You are correct. At least McLaughlin and Mu should be available for 4x400 mix.

    Who is in charge? Remove him/her/them if US teams fail to get gold in 4x400m mix and at least silver in 4x400mW.
    I realize this hasn't been answered previously in any thread but....to clarify...anyone who is listed on the US roster can run in the relays. This includes Mu and McLaughlin regardless of who is in the relay pools.

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  • ATK
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    Originally posted by GHM View Post

    You are correct. At least McLaughlin and Mu should be available for 4x400 mix.

    Who is in charge? Remove him/her/them if US teams fail to get gold in 4x400m mix and at least silver in 4x400mW.
    It was noted earlier by a few people already, but they don't need to be explicitly listed in the pool for them to be able to run the relay in Tokyo because they are already on the team in their individual events. Anyone competing in Tokyo can also run on any of the relay teams.

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  • GHM
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    Originally posted by spikes007 View Post
    Maybe I'm missing something but the women's relay pools for 4x4 don't include McLaughlin, Mu, or Muhammad.... How could this be?
    You are correct. At least McLaughlin and Mu should be available for 4x400 mix.

    Who is in charge? Remove him/her/them if US teams fail to get gold in 4x400m mix and at least silver in 4x400mW.

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  • ATK
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    Originally posted by gm View Post

    7 walkers short, actually...
    I tried to defend walkers yet completely forgot one of their events!

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  • Conor Dary
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    Originally posted by Flumpy View Post
    By people who have absolutely no idea what they are talking about.
    Exactly..

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  • Conor Dary
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    Originally posted by jazzcyclist View Post

    What a pathetic world we live in when a governing body gets slammed for acting with integrity.
    By people who know nothing about the sport or care...

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  • gm
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    Originally posted by ATK View Post

    On the flipside, other than the Javelin, were just 4 walkers short of a full boat 🙂
    7 walkers short, actually...

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  • MJR
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    Originally posted by ATK View Post

    On the flipside, other than the Javelin, were just 4 walkers short of a full boat 🙂
    ... and the descendants of Nero fiddle, whilst doing nothing to resolve that problem. 10% of Max's salary spent annually in the event would change fortunes nationwide.

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  • gh
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    Originally posted by jazzcyclist View Post

    What a pathetic world we live in when a governing body gets slammed for acting with integrity.
    haters gotta hate

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  • Flumpy
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    By people who have absolutely no idea what they are talking about.

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  • jazzcyclist
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    Originally posted by dupontred View Post
    Usatf getting slammed on social media for something they had no control over.
    What a pathetic world we live in when a governing body gets slammed for acting with integrity.

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  • ATK
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    Originally posted by NotDutra5 View Post

    If they wanted to do that, the US would have to designate one of those three as the alternate in the 100m.

    Technically for the US the relay pools have 2 additional members and 1 is considered an alternate of the 6. No idea why it is done this way. So it's the 4 athletes in the individual event, 1 additional athlete and 1 alternate.

    The mixed relays add another 2 athletes male and female which I was aware of but there is an alternate as well. Looks like the US is passing on the alternate or I just don't see who it is.
    Yes, So they could have technically made Gardiner the alternate with Richardson and Hobbs in the pool and no one looses out. (The only "loss" is that, Thomas wouldn't be able to double if one of the 3 dropped out). But anyway, the team is the team.

    You do see it right, the the Mixed relay does have an "alternate" but its the 8th placer in the 400m. So it looks like (and I'm just realizing it now) they have 2 athletes for the mixed relay pool (1 male and 1 female) then 2 alternates (1 male 1 female). I guess the thought is the 4x400 pool members would be used?

    But honestly, the technicalities dont matter when you get down to it. Shea Anderson is listed as mixed relay pool alternate, but her spot is no different than Whitney, Irby or Manson as they all can run any relay at any point in Tokyo

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  • 18.99s
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    Originally posted by Tuariki View Post
    Thomas would probably lose out on a medal, at least silver, if she was not included in the pool.
    Being in the relay pool doesn't entitle you to a medal if the team wins a medal. It's necessary to actually run a round of the relay to get a medal, and theoretically it's possible for all the athletes in the 6-name pool to end up watching the relays as spectators while their teammates from other events run the relay.

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  • NotDutra5
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    Originally posted by ATK View Post

    Yes, 3 people. They could have named Gardner, Hobbs and Richardson and no one would lose out since Gabby Thomas is already in Tokyo for the 200m
    If they wanted to do that, the US would have to designate one of those three as the alternate in the 100m.

    Technically for the US the relay pools have 2 additional members and 1 is considered an alternate of the 6. No idea why it is done this way. So it's the 4 athletes in the individual event, 1 additional athlete and 1 alternate.

    The mixed relays add another 2 athletes male and female which I was aware of but there is an alternate as well. Looks like the US is passing on the alternate or I just don't see who it is.
    Last edited by NotDutra5; 07-07-2021, 02:43 AM.

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