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  • KevinR
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    Agreed. He may be able to get it, one day. But I doubt seriously that after earlier rounds, and such a big prize up for the taking, the race will be slower.

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  • NotDutra5
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    Regardless of which record is used, Hocker is highly unlikely to run 3:29 in Tokyo absent a lot of shangri-la thinking.

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  • gm
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    That situation will not happen again after there was a rule change. Rule 261.1.a now requires an athlete to be able to represent the U.S. in international competition at the time of the performance, so people like Duplantis will no longer be able to claim ARs (not that any of them wanted them to begin with, AFAIK).

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  • Steele
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    That whole change of country was bogus, you can't win a medal under another country's flag and claim to be an American. Nope.

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  • Trickstat
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    Originally posted by gm View Post

    Huh? The ratified American Record is 3:27.40. How is that an odd position?
    To non Americans it is odd as he ran it just before winning an Olympic silver for his country of birth, Kenya.

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  • Atticus
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    Originally posted by ATK View Post
    The USATF website says 3:27.40 is the American record (as gm linked as well)
    https://www.usatf.org/special-pages/...erican-records
    USATF rules also stated that an athlete needed to be an American citizen to set American records. Lagat was an American citizen since May 2004.
    So may we assume that FAST, of which I am a charter member, does not agree?

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  • ATK
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    Originally posted by Atticus View Post

    Ha! You've made that abundantly clear, but it doesn't address my sincere question.
    The USATF website says 3:27.40 is the American record (as gm linked as well)

    https://www.usatf.org/special-pages/...erican-records

    USATF rules also stated that an athlete needed to be an American citizen to set American records. Lagat was an American citizen since May 2004.
    Last edited by ATK; 07-23-2021, 02:26 AM.

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  • Atticus
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    Originally posted by gm View Post
    Ha! You've made that abundantly clear, but it doesn't address my sincere question.

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  • gm
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    Originally posted by Atticus View Post

    Wiki says USATF didn't ratify it, which is why I asked the previous question. Why doesn't FAST recognize it?
    https://www.usatf.org/special-pages/...erican-records

    I don't care what wikipedia says

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  • Atticus
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    Originally posted by gm View Post

    Huh? The ratified American Record is 3:27.40. How is that an odd position?
    Wiki says USATF didn't ratify it, which is why I asked the previous question. Why doesn't FAST recognize it?

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  • gm
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    Originally posted by Atticus View Post

    Ha! Odd position for a company man !!!
    Huh? The ratified American Record is 3:27.40. How is that an odd position?

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  • Atticus
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    Originally posted by gm View Post
    3:27.40 is the AR
    I don't care what other listings/sources say
    Ha! Odd position for a company man !!!

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  • gm
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    3:27.40 is the AR

    I don't care what other listings/sources say

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  • Atticus
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    Originally posted by aaronk View Post
    There ARE different listings!
    FAST Annual 2021 lists 3:29.30, and doesn't even have the 3:27.40 with an asterisk!
    T&FN says it's the 3:27.40 in their list of AR's!
    I've mostly seen it as the 3:29.30.
    But I think we've had a thread about this before!
    So USATF did, or did not, ratify Lagat's record?

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  • Conor Dary
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    Now in Tokyo it is 2:52 am and the temperature is 80F and the dew point is 73F. That is very warm and muggy. And that's at night. Racing conditions are going to be tough in the 1500 and up.

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