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  • aaronk
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    Originally posted by Trickstat View Post

    Isn't that the American Record according to USATF but not the rest of the world?
    There ARE different listings!
    FAST Annual 2021 lists 3:29.30, and doesn't even have the 3:27.40 with an asterisk!
    T&FN says it's the 3:27.40 in their list of AR's!

    I've mostly seen it as the 3:29.30.
    But I think we've had a thread about this before!

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  • Trickstat
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    Originally posted by gm View Post

    The AR is 3:27.40.
    Isn't that the American Record according to USATF but not the rest of the world?

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  • gm
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    Originally posted by aaronk View Post

    First, the official AR is 3:29.30, not 3:27.40.
    I believe 3:29.30 is the generally accepted AR!
    The AR is 3:27.40.

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  • aaronk
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    Originally posted by NotDutra5 View Post

    Cole Hocker would be an absolute shock if he were to run better than 3:27.40. What has he shown that would even remotely indicate this ability? That's without taking into account the fact that championship racing doesn't usually lend itself to balls to the wall time trials.
    First, the official AR is 3:29.30, not 3:27.40.
    I believe 3:29.30 is the generally accepted AR!
    Second, Hocker hasn't been in a really fast race yet!
    By "really fast", I mean the kind where Cheruiyot sets a really hard pace.
    IF that happens, Hocker (& everyone else who wants to win) would have to go with him--or at least stay a lot closer than he does normally to the leader!
    That's how he improves his time by maybe 5 or 6 seconds in one race.
    He HAS the potential; he just hasn't been in a race where he's been put to the test!

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  • Vault-emort
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    One of the things that I am looking forward to seeing in Tokyo is events like the LJ & PV.

    Without a crowd to give them the rhythmical clapping they use as a stimulus, I predict the rest of the field will provide this support for their competitors. In an empty stadium, the sound will still provide a boost.

    And it will really fit the new Olympic motto "Stronger, Faster, Higher - Together'.

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  • ATK
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    Originally posted by aaronk View Post
    -World Records in Tokyo?
    Yes, Obvious
    Grant Holloway in 110H
    Karsten Warholm or Rai Benjamin in 400H
    Mondo Duplantis in PV
    Ryan Crouser in SP
    Johannes Vetter in JT
    Syd McLaughlin in 400H
    Yulimar Rojas in TJ
    Jamaica in W 4x100R
    Sifan Hassan or Faith Kipyegon in 1500
    Sifan Hassan or Letesenbet Gidey in 10000
    I agree and would add the women's 100m (Flo Jo's 10.61) as a potential world record to look out for.

    Originally posted by aaronk View Post
    American Records in Tokyo?
    Grant Holloway in 110H
    Rai Benjamin in 400H
    Ryan Crouser in SP
    Syd McLaughlin in 400H
    DeAnna Price in HT
    IMO these are the absolute most likely American records to go down.

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  • NotDutra5
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    Originally posted by aaronk View Post
    American Records in Tokyo?

    Yes, Obvious
    Grant Holloway in 110H
    Rai Benjamin in 400H
    Sam Kendricks in PV
    Ryan Crouser in SP
    Rudy Winkler in HT
    Athing Mu in 800
    Elle Purrier St Pierre in 1500
    Karissa Schweizer in 5000
    Karissa Schweizer in 10000
    Emma Coburn or Courtney Frerichs in 3000SC
    Syd McLaughlin in 400H
    Keturah Orji in TJ
    Katie Nageotte or Sandi Morris in PV
    Valarie Allman in DT
    Maggie Malone in JT
    DeAnna Price in HT

    Possible
    Trayvon Bromell in 100

    Not So Shocking If It Happens
    Cole Hocker in 1500
    Paul Chelimo in 5000
    Gabby Thomas in 200
    Vashti Cunningham in HJ
    Raven Saunders or Jessica Ramsey in SP


    Cole Hocker would be an absolute shock if he were to run better than 3:27.40. What has he shown that would even remotely indicate this ability? That's without taking into account the fact that championship racing doesn't usually lend itself to balls to the wall time trials.

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  • Atticus
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    Originally posted by tm71 View Post
    What ??????
    i would be extremely surprised if there more than two ARs set
    Yeah, 3 is a big ask, but these three certainly do seem doomed.

    Rai Benjamin in 400H
    Emma Coburn in 3000SC
    Syd McLaughlin in 400H

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  • tm71
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    Originally posted by aaronk View Post
    American Records in Tokyo?

    Yes, Obvious
    Grant Holloway in 110H
    Rai Benjamin in 400H
    Sam Kendricks in PV
    Ryan Crouser in SP
    Rudy Winkler in HT
    Athing Mu in 800
    Elle Purrier St Pierre in 1500
    Karissa Schweizer in 5000
    Karissa Schweizer in 10000
    Emma Coburn or Courtney Frerichs in 3000SC
    Syd McLaughlin in 400H
    Keturah Orji in TJ
    Katie Nageotte or Sandi Morris in PV
    Valarie Allman in DT
    Maggie Malone in JT
    DeAnna Price in HT

    Possible
    Trayvon Bromell in 100

    Not So Shocking If It Happens
    Cole Hocker in 1500
    Paul Chelimo in 5000
    Gabby Thomas in 200
    Vashti Cunningham in HJ
    Raven Saunders or Jessica Ramsey in SP


    What ??????
    i would be extremely surprised if there more than two ARs set

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  • TWalsh
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    Originally posted by Tuariki View Post
    Toshiro Mutob head of the Tokyo 2020 organising committee has refused to rule out cancelling the Games over surging Covid-19 cases with the bubble system at the Athletes Village was already “broken”.

    #1) Toshiro Mutob is known for his careful use of words. His exact words were: "we won't rule out cancelling the Olympics." This comment was blown out of proportion by Suga's political opponents and many in the media that want to see the Olympic Games cancelled.

    #2) Japan Prime Minister Suga was quoted on Tuesday. He said, "The world is faced with great difficulties. We can bring success to the delivery of the Games."

    #3) IOC President Thomas Bach was also quoted on Tuesday saying: "Billions of people around the world will follow and appreciate the Olympic Games. They will admire the Japanese people for what they achieved. Cancelling the Olympics was never an option. The IOC never abandons the athletes."

    #4) The increased bets from gamblers that the Olympics will be cancelled is the textbook definition of "scared money". And you never want to follow the gamblers that bet because of fear. The smart money is still on the Olympics going as planned, with many adjustments and alterations occurring.
    Last edited by TWalsh; 07-21-2021, 03:19 PM.

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  • Tuariki
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    Toshiro Mutob head of the Tokyo 2020 organising committee has refused to rule out cancelling the Games over surging Covid-19 cases with the bubble system at the Athletes Village was already “broken”.

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  • gh
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    Originally posted by dukehjsteve View Post
    I still have the Apocalyptic (sp) Fear that sometime in the next 3 days, the Olympics are CANCELLED.
    see story now linked on home page about sports books seeing increased action on cancellation

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  • Atticus
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    Originally posted by booond View Post
    I believe he was saying AR not WR
    Point!

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  • booond
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    Originally posted by Atticus View Post
    It would certainly shock me if she drops 4 more seconds in the 800. 1:55 might be an expectation I could see.
    I believe he was saying AR not WR

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  • Zelex
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    Originally posted by aaronk View Post
    American Records in Tokyo?

    Not So Shocking If It Happens
    Cole Hocker in 1500
    Paul Chelimo in 5000
    Gabby Thomas in 200
    Vashti Cunningham in HJ
    Raven Saunders or Jessica Ramsey in SP


    I will be shocked if Gabby Thomas breaks the AR (21.34).

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