Rana Reider being investigated for sexual misconduct

[Wiederganger]

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2021/nov/03/leading-athletics-coach-rana-reider-to-be-investigated-over-sexual-misconduct-claims

(While they're at it, they can investigate why he overloaded Schippers and ruined her career)

[guru]

Worth noting he is not under temporary suspension, which is SOP by SafeSport when there's misconduct allegation(s)

[Conor Dary]

Leading athletics coach Rana Reider to be investigated over sexual misconduct claims

• The US Center for SafeSport is to conduct investigation
• British athletes told to ‘cease all association’ with coach

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/20...conduct-claims

[polevaultpower]

Worth noting he is not under temporary suspension, which is SOP by SafeSport when there's misconduct allegation(s)

Temporary suspension is absolutely not SOP for SafeSport. I know of multiple cases, several of which are still active, where the coach was not suspended during the investigation.

Only a teeny tiny fraction of SafeSport cases ever result in a public action.

[gh]

Gemili and Neita are standing by Reider; see link on home page

[Liuxuan_rol]

Can’t see link - can you postl

[gm]

Can’t see link - can you postl

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2021/nov/08/sprinters-gemili-and-neita-on-collision-course-with-uk-athletics-over-reider

[Wiederganger]

You can understand their loyalty, especially when Neita's just had her best season ever, it isn't surprising she's reluctant to sever ties. But it does make it interesting and I await to see what British Athletics does next. As for Gemili, it might actually do him some good to find a new coach, he's never quite fulfilled his potential under Reider, and has been carrying injuries more often than not.

Re the case, it is well known that Reider was 'dating' Desiree Henry years ago, when she was still 19 and he was 44 (not rumour, fact). Not that has anything to do directly with the allegations per se, but it does show he overstepped the boundaries of what many would feel was acceptable.

[Tuariki]

Re the case, it is well known that Reider was 'dating' Desiree Henry years ago, when she was still 19 and he was 44 (not rumour, fact). Not that has anything to do directly with the allegations per se, but it does show he overstepped the boundaries of what many would feel was acceptable.

At 19 she is an adult and if she wanted to date Reider, then that should be her choice.

[Wiederganger]

At 19 she is an adult and if she wanted to date Reider, then that should be her choice.

"wanted to" and "choice" are the key things here. Coercion and pressure, and the power dynamics come into play and that's the central point. It's debatable as to how ethical it is. It's no different to a doctor-patient relationship, or Lecturer-student relationship. On the whole, I would say it should be frowned upon, professionally, and be treated as sexual misconduct. That's without the age difference.

(mainly heterosexual) men typically don't see any issue with this. "They're all adults" is the line often used. I disagree.

Unfortunately there has been a history of coaches in the UK 'taking advantage' of their position. I wont name names, but there was a European, very senior person, who did as he pleased, and slept with who he pleased, as well as another coach currently under investigation, who basically shagged an athlete in a cupboard and has been accused by multiple women.

[NotDutra5]

While I don't see the fascination some men have with much younger women myself, if a relationship develops, then so be it. Relationships develop for many reasons and people of all ages make bad decisions regarding relationships all of the time. As long as there is nothing illegal occurring, then those choosing those relationships should be left alone.

[Conor Dary]

At 19 she is an adult and if she wanted to date Reider, then that should be her choice.

A College teacher doing that would be a huge no no....

[Tuariki]

"wanted to" and "choice" are the key things here. Coercion and pressure, and the power dynamics come into play and that's the central point. It's debatable as to how ethical it is. It's no different to a doctor-patient relationship, or Lecturer-student relationship. On the whole, I would say it should be frowned upon, professionally, and be treated as sexual misconduct. That's without the age difference.

(mainly heterosexual) men typically don't see any issue with this. "They're all adults" is the line often used. I disagree.

Unfortunately there has been a history of coaches in the UK 'taking advantage' of their position. I wont name names, but there was a European, very senior person, who did as he pleased, and slept with who he pleased, as well as another coach currently under investigation, who basically shagged an athlete in a cupboard and has been accused by multiple women.

I note what you are saying, but at tge end of the day an adult should be free to enter in a relationshio with whoever they, as long as it is consensual.

In NZ, the legal age for consensual sex is 16. And the legal age to provide commercial sexual services is 18.

[Flumpy]

What's the legal age for a teacher to have a relationship with their pupil?

[Trickstat]

What's the legal age for a teacher to have a relationship with their pupil?

In the UK I think it is 18 while the general age of consent is 16.