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  • #46
    Originally posted by jc203 View Post
    How about trio-combo events with marks for added together: HJ + LJ + TJ or Shot + Disc + Hammer or 100m + 200m + 400m ?
    Expand the run to a 1-2-4-8-15 heptathlon.

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    • #47
      Originally posted by lonewolf View Post

      Expand the run to a 1-2-4-8-15 heptathlon.
      That would be a pentathlon.

      How about the all-field octathlon: shot, discus, javelin, hammer, high jump, long jump, triple jump, pole vault.
      The all-track decathlon: 100m, 200m, 400m, 100h/110h, 400h, 800, 1500, 3000st, 5000m, 10000m.

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      • #48
        Originally posted by lonewolf View Post
        I don't like mixed-gender competitions. I can only think of one event where the sexes should simultaneously participate.

        Thankfully nobody has thus far attempted to give it a name derived from any of the events in athletics. There's really one standout anyway, so who cares, here goes.

        The dickathlon.
        Last edited by 1.609; 12-07-2021, 08:27 PM.

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        • #49
          Originally posted by 18.99s View Post
          That would be a pentathlon.

          How about the all-field octathlon: shot, discus, javelin, hammer, high jump, long jump, triple jump, pole vault.
          The all-track decathlon: 100m, 200m, 400m, 100h/110h, 400h, 800, 1500, 3000st, 5000m, 10000m.
          OOps... one of those athalons... I thought about the track athlon minus the hurdles and steeple which would be what, a septathalon ?
          Figured the necessary recovery time for the three longer races would just make the competition too long and perhaps dangerous.

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          • #50
            Dunk tank shot put. Last thrower to remain dry wins.

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            • #51
              Originally posted by Halfmiler2 View Post
              I would like a Marathon walk instead of the stupid 35K that is replacing the 50K. A Marathon distance could popularize the walk as the public realizes that elite walkers breaking 3 hours are incredible athletes.

              I would also add cross country.
              Something I mentioned a very long time ago. Did they ever get a marathon or 42K split from Yohann Diniz' 50K WR? I happen to think he was very close to or under 3 hours. Is there still a videoclip of his WR?

              Whose idea was it for 35K, anyway? Why not 30K or 40K? And if 40K, why not a full marathon?
              Last edited by CookyMonzta; 12-07-2021, 10:05 PM.

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              • #52
                Originally posted by CookyMonzta View Post

                Something I mentioned a very long time ago. Did they ever get a marathon or 42K split from Yohann Diniz' 50K WR? I happen to think he was very close to or under 3 hours. Is there still a videoclip of his WR?

                Whose idea was it for 35K, anyway? Why not 30K or 40K? And if 40K, why not a full marathon?
                The video at https://youtu.be/YWpaEo5Me5M?t=10924 shows Diniz's 42km split as 2:59:25. It's not clear though whether they meant 42.195km. If his walk was perfectly even paced he would have hit the marathon mark at 2:59:22.

                Re the 35km ... it already had a little bit of history in Race Walking, e.g., occasionally being used for national championships so as not to put the athletes through the rigours of a 50km ahead of a forthcoming Worlds or Olympics.

                When the WA Race Walking committee was considering the change in distances the 10km & 30km was also one of the options on the table.

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                • #53
                  Originally posted by CookyMonzta View Post
                  Whose idea was it for 35K, anyway? Why not 30K or 40K? And if 40K, why not a full marathon?
                  50 - 20 = 30, 30/2 =15, halfway between 20 and 50 is 20 + 15 =35 OR 50 - 15 =35, depending on your main event. Everybody ends up equally unhappy, the balance point of many political decisions.

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                  • #54
                    Originally posted by LuckySpikes View Post

                    The video at https://youtu.be/YWpaEo5Me5M?t=10924 shows Diniz's 42km split as 2:59:25. It's not clear though whether they meant 42.195km. If his walk was perfectly even paced he would have hit the marathon mark at 2:59:22.

                    Re the 35km ... it already had a little bit of history in Race Walking, e.g., occasionally being used for national championships so as not to put the athletes through the rigours of a 50km ahead of a forthcoming Worlds or Olympics.

                    When the WA Race Walking committee was considering the change in distances the 10km & 30km was also one of the options on the table.
                    I assume that was a 2K loop course, yes? The broadcast missed Diniz' 44K split. He passed 46K in 3:15:59. Assuming he kept even pace, between 42K and 46K, he would have passed the marathon mark in 3:00:14. I'm thinking WA should consider the prospects of a marathon racewalk, given the 3-hour barrier is thisclose to being broken.
                    Last edited by CookyMonzta; 12-08-2021, 03:52 AM.

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                    • #55
                      Originally posted by LuckySpikes View Post

                      The video at https://youtu.be/YWpaEo5Me5M?t=10924 shows Diniz's 42km split as 2:59:25. It's not clear though whether they meant 42.195km. If his walk was perfectly even paced he would have hit the marathon mark at 2:59:22.

                      Re the 35km ... it already had a little bit of history in Race Walking, e.g., occasionally being used for national championships so as not to put the athletes through the rigours of a 50km ahead of a forthcoming Worlds or Olympics.

                      When the WA Race Walking committee was considering the change in distances the 10km & 30km was also one of the options on the table.
                      The Commonwealth Games used to have a men's 30km as their only walking event. It replaced the previous 20 mile walk. One advantage of 30km was that 20km specialists were generally happy to take it on.

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                      • #56
                        Originally posted by Trickstat View Post

                        The Commonwealth Games used to have a men's 30km as their only walking event. It replaced the previous 20 mile walk. One advantage of 30km was that 20km specialists were generally happy to take it on.
                        Yes, well remembered. As it is the 35km will still suit a lot of 20km walkers because it's not quite the gruelling endurance test that the 50km was. Now having the 20km and 35km raises the prospect of doubling at the major championships - which was quite rare with 20km & 50km - and that's a shame because the 2 walks events were supposed to be (and were up until this point) two very different events with different demands.

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                        • #57
                          Originally posted by LuckySpikes View Post

                          Yes, well remembered. As it is the 35km will still suit a lot of 20km walkers because it's not quite the gruelling endurance test that the 50km was. Now having the 20km and 35km raises the prospect of doubling at the major championships - which was quite rare with 20km & 50km - and that's a shame because the 2 walks events were supposed to be (and were up until this point) two very different events with different demands.
                          Would the demands be just as different if they were to push the 20K up to a half-marathon (which would add maybe 5 minutes) and the 50K down to a marathon (which would drop about 30 to 35 minutes)?

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                          • #58
                            Originally posted by CookyMonzta View Post

                            Would the demands be just as different if they were to push the 20K up to a half-marathon (which would add maybe 5 minutes) and the 50K down to a marathon (which would drop about 30 to 35 minutes)?
                            I imagine the marathon distance might fill the 20km specialists with a bit more trepidation. Maybe that psychological barrier of going over 40km? Just as with runners probably not every great half marathon walker would also be great at the marathon distance.

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                            • #59
                              A number of us would love to see X-C. I watched a bit of the winter biathlon combining X-C skiing with shooting. Could be an interesting concept for the Summer Games (though it would never happen).

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                              • #60
                                How about the 600m? The % slowdown from 400m to 800m is the largest when comparing other adjacent events (for example, 100m-200m, 5000m-10000m) so you need something to fill the gap. Johnny Gray, Martin McGrady, Cas Loxsom, Jearl, Quirot, what could they have done? Maybe a 600m-800m double from Rudisha if the schedule allowed?

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