Question about US 1500m runners...

[79]

Did any native US runner ever run a sub-3'30" in history? My idea is no.

[18.99s]

The all-time US list: https://www.worldathletics.org/recor...Day=2021-12-24

Bernard Lagat and Sydney Maree are the only two on the list with sub-3:30; Centrowitz is the fastest US-born with 3:30.40.

[79]

Infact, a young athlete from Norway can suddenly rise and run 2 seconds faster than the fastest native US miler (1500m runner, to be shorter) ever did in history. Which, to my opinion, traduces well their historical chronometric weakness.

[Atticus]

For all the BBTMers out there:

mMile
Alan Webb 3:46.91
J Ingebrigtsen 3:47.24

Merry Christmas!

[steve]

For all the BBTMers out there:

mMile
Alan Webb 3:46.91
J Ingebrigtsen 3:47.24

Merry Christmas!

Haha!! Well played. Merry Christmas!!

[cigar95]

Born
Before
Their
Mother?

I've obviously missed something.


Edit - ah - Bring Back the Mile. No wonder an online search was not helpful.

[79]

For all the BBTMers out there:

mMile
Alan Webb 3:46.91
J Ingebrigtsen 3:47.24

Merry Christmas!

m1500
Alan Webb 3:30.54
Jakob Ingebrigtsen 3:28.32 (-2:22s)

( i was meaning 1500m runners when I said milers, 😉)

[Steele]

Infact, a young athlete from Norway can suddenly rise and run 2 seconds faster than the fastest native US miler (1500m runner, to be shorter) ever did in history. Which, to my opinion, traduces well their historical chronometric weakness.

Not sure exactly what your point is here. Are you comparing Norwegian miling to U.S. miling? Also, let's not represent JI's career as a "sudden rise". His is a perfect storm of talent, lvery long-term training (for someone his age) in a perfect incubator, a refined training system, opportunity, and personal ambition/motivation.

What's the Norwegian national 1500 record if your last name isn't Ingebrigtsen again? 3:37 something or other.

[Atticus]

What's the Norwegian national 1500 record if your last name isn't Ingebrigtsen again? 3:37 something or other.

2021 Top 10 m1500

Norway
1 3:28.32 Jakob INGEBRIGTSEN
2 3:32.23 Filip INGEBRIGTSEN
3 3:37.98 Ferdinand Kvan EDMAN
4 3:39.40 Mats HAUGE
5 3:40.03 Fredrik SANDVIK
6 3:43.78 Magnus Tuv MYHRE
7 3:44.31 Eivind ØYGARD
8 3:44.55 Marius VEDVIK
9 3:44.92 Simen HALLE
10 3:45.96 Moa Abounnachat BOLLERØD

USA
1 3:31.40 Cole HOCKER
2 3:33.64 Craig ENGELS
3 3:33.65 Colby ALEXANDER
4 3:33.69 Matthew CENTROWITZ
5 3:34.08 Henry WYNNE
6 3:34.36 Hobbs KESSLER
7 3:34.49 John GREGOREK
8 3:34.57 Vincent CIATTEI
9 3:34.68 Yared NUGUSE
10 3:35.45 Mason FERLIC

[gm]

What's the Norwegian national 1500 record if your last name isn't Ingebrigtsen again? 3:37 something or other.

3:37.4 from 1976 by Lars-Martin KAUPANG

[79]

These statistics are quite logical, knowing there are more or less only 5M of people in Norway.
This reminds me of Sir John Walker's world hegemony through years 1975/76 in the 1500m/mile events. No big 1500m Kiwi names before him historically then. I wonder how many people were living in New Zealand 45 years ago... 3M? There was another very good miler from New Zealand then, but I don't remember his name.

[NotDutra5]

These statistics are quite logical, knowing there are more or less only 5M of people in Norway.
This reminds me of Sir John Walker's world hegemony through years 1975/76 in the 1500m/mile events. No big 1500m Kiwi names before him historically then. I wonder how many people were living in New Zealand 45 years ago... 3M? There was another very good miler from New Zealand then, but I don't remember his name.

There was a dry spell for New Zealand for about 5 years after Snell and Davies. Dick Quax began to break that in 1970. Rod Dixon won a bronze medal in 1972 and both were ranked...Dixon in particular....over the next number of years including when they moved to the 5,000m.

[79]

Yes, Rod Dixon, thank you! I just checked their bios on wiki. What a brilliant kiwi generation!

[NotDutra5]

Yes, Rod Dixon, thank you! I just checked their bios on wiki. What a brilliant kiwi generation!

Tony Polhill was also an Olympic finalist in 1972

[Alan Shank]

m1500
Alan Webb 3:30.54
Jakob Ingebrigtsen 3:28.32 (-2:22s)

( i was meaning 1500m runners when I said milers, 😉)

Jakob's 3:28.32 and Webb's 3:46.91 are not too close: 208.32 x 1.08 = 224.985, or 3:45.00; Webb 3:46.91 : 2246.91 / 1.08 = 210.10 or 3:30.1.
Happy New Year,
Alan Shank
Woodland, CA, USA