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  • Question about US 1500m runners...

    Did any native US runner ever run a sub-3'30" in history? My idea is no.

  • #2
    The all-time US list: https://www.worldathletics.org/recor...Day=2021-12-24

    Bernard Lagat and Sydney Maree are the only two on the list with sub-3:30; Centrowitz is the fastest US-born with 3:30.40.

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    • #3
      Infact, a young athlete from Norway can suddenly rise and run 2 seconds faster than the fastest native US miler (1500m runner, to be shorter) ever did in history. Which, to my opinion, traduces well their historical chronometric weakness.
      Last edited by 79; 12-26-2021, 06:10 AM.

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      • #4
        For all the BBTMers out there:

        mMile
        Alan Webb 3:46.91
        J Ingebrigtsen 3:47.24

        Merry Christmas!

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Atticus View Post
          For all the BBTMers out there:

          mMile
          Alan Webb 3:46.91
          J Ingebrigtsen 3:47.24

          Merry Christmas!
          Haha!! Well played. Merry Christmas!!

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          • #6
            Born
            Before
            Their
            Mother?

            I've obviously missed something.


            Edit - ah - Bring Back the Mile. No wonder an online search was not helpful.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Atticus View Post
              For all the BBTMers out there:

              mMile
              Alan Webb 3:46.91
              J Ingebrigtsen 3:47.24

              Merry Christmas!
              m1500
              Alan Webb 3:30.54
              Jakob Ingebrigtsen 3:28.32 (-2:22s)

              ( i was meaning 1500m runners when I said milers, 😉)
              Last edited by 79; 12-26-2021, 06:35 AM.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by 79 View Post
                Infact, a young athlete from Norway can suddenly rise and run 2 seconds faster than the fastest native US miler (1500m runner, to be shorter) ever did in history. Which, to my opinion, traduces well their historical chronometric weakness.
                Not sure exactly what your point is here. Are you comparing Norwegian miling to U.S. miling? Also, let's not represent JI's career as a "sudden rise". His is a perfect storm of talent, lvery long-term training (for someone his age) in a perfect incubator, a refined training system, opportunity, and personal ambition/motivation.

                What's the Norwegian national 1500 record if your last name isn't Ingebrigtsen again? 3:37 something or other.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Steele View Post
                  What's the Norwegian national 1500 record if your last name isn't Ingebrigtsen again? 3:37 something or other.
                  2021 Top 10 m1500

                  Norway
                  1 3:28.32 Jakob INGEBRIGTSEN

                  2 3:32.23 Filip INGEBRIGTSEN
                  3 3:37.98 Ferdinand Kvan EDMAN
                  4 3:39.40 Mats HAUGE
                  5 3:40.03 Fredrik SANDVIK
                  6 3:43.78 Magnus Tuv MYHRE
                  7 3:44.31 Eivind ØYGARD
                  8 3:44.55 Marius VEDVIK
                  9 3:44.92 Simen HALLE
                  10 3:45.96 Moa Abounnachat BOLLERØD


                  USA
                  1 3:31.40 Cole HOCKER
                  2 3:33.64 Craig ENGELS
                  3 3:33.65 Colby ALEXANDER
                  4 3:33.69 Matthew CENTROWITZ
                  5 3:34.08 Henry WYNNE
                  6 3:34.36 Hobbs KESSLER
                  7 3:34.49 John GREGOREK
                  8 3:34.57 Vincent CIATTEI
                  9 3:34.68 Yared NUGUSE

                  10 3:35.45 Mason FERLIC




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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Steele View Post
                    What's the Norwegian national 1500 record if your last name isn't Ingebrigtsen again? 3:37 something or other.
                    3:37.4 from 1976 by Lars-Martin KAUPANG

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                    • #11
                      These statistics are quite logical, knowing there are more or less only 5M of people in Norway.
                      This reminds me of Sir John Walker's world hegemony through years 1975/76 in the 1500m/mile events. No big 1500m Kiwi names before him historically then. I wonder how many people were living in New Zealand 45 years ago... 3M? There was another very good miler from New Zealand then, but I don't remember his name.
                      Last edited by 79; 12-28-2021, 01:55 AM.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by 79 View Post
                        These statistics are quite logical, knowing there are more or less only 5M of people in Norway.
                        This reminds me of Sir John Walker's world hegemony through years 1975/76 in the 1500m/mile events. No big 1500m Kiwi names before him historically then. I wonder how many people were living in New Zealand 45 years ago... 3M? There was another very good miler from New Zealand then, but I don't remember his name.
                        There was a dry spell for New Zealand for about 5 years after Snell and Davies. Dick Quax began to break that in 1970. Rod Dixon won a bronze medal in 1972 and both were ranked...Dixon in particular....over the next number of years including when they moved to the 5,000m.

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                        • #13
                          Yes, Rod Dixon, thank you! I just checked their bios on wiki. What a brilliant kiwi generation!
                          Last edited by 79; 12-28-2021, 02:45 AM.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by 79 View Post
                            Yes, Rod Dixon, thank you! I just checked their bios on wiki. What a brilliant kiwi generation!
                            Tony Polhill was also an Olympic finalist in 1972

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by 79 View Post

                              m1500
                              Alan Webb 3:30.54
                              Jakob Ingebrigtsen 3:28.32 (-2:22s)

                              ( i was meaning 1500m runners when I said milers, 😉)
                              Jakob's 3:28.32 and Webb's 3:46.91 are not too close: 208.32 x 1.08 = 224.985, or 3:45.00; Webb 3:46.91 : 2246.91 / 1.08 = 210.10 or 3:30.1.
                              Happy New Year,
                              Alan Shank
                              Woodland, CA, USA

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