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  • #31
    Originally posted by AS View Post
    Great research Oh Bovine One...
    Somehow that title feels more excremental than worshipful Hinduish but I shall graciously accept. It's an interesting if rather arcane subject.

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    • #32
      If we go back in time on the beach sprint crossover, we can see that John "Jack" Hodgkinson competed in the 1921-22 National championships in the 100, 220 and 440, making the final only in the 440 and finishing 6/6. Edwin "Slip" Carr would win the 100/220 double and go on to compete at the 1924 OG.

      Hodgkinson is also recorded in 1923 as wining the "Surf Beach sprint championship" ahead of J. C. Heagney. Heagney was touted at the Dulwich Hill AAC club champion at all three sprints and would win the NSW 100 yards championship in 1928.

      This was found with only a cursory bit of research, so it appears that there is a long history of crossover performances, probably from the beginning of both sports.

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      • #33
        Another early beach sprint champion was Empire Games Golden Girl Decima Norman who won the WA title in 1936. In athletics, she competed for the 'Surf' club which she helped form.

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        • #34
          I think Elly Hutton in the 2000 relay team might have run beach also?

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          • #35
            Originally posted by Speedster View Post
            I think Elly Hutton in the 2000 relay team might have run beach also?
            Yes - that rings a bell.

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            • #36
              Elly Hutton did run some beach sprints but did not seem to win: https://results.sls.com.au/person/124390/elly-hutton

              There's also another Elly, more accomplished on the beach, that ran both.

              Elly Graf (now Eloise "Elly" Miller) is a member of the SLSA Hall of Fame for winning 13 Australian Championship Gold Medals in beach events, including 10 individual Gold Medals, plus 6 Silver and 3 Bronze medals between 2006 and 2015. She won the Open Female Beach Sprint in 2007-08 and 2011-12 and 2015.

              She competed on the track in CWG(youth) in 2008 and World Relay teams in 2014 and 2015. Track best of 11.64 +0.9 at age 23. She did not appear to target the 200 at all with her PB of 24.45 +1.2 way back at age 17. Her only national medals were junior silvers in 100/200.

              Elona Reinalda was another beach winner and minor league track sprinter.

              Newport SLSC says "Elona Reinalda was our first Aussies Junior Beach Sprint Champion in 1992-93 and Opens Aussies Beach Sprint Champion in 1997-98". Elona went to WJC in 1994 and 1997 Universiade and had two Junior titles at 200 although her lifetime PBs are rather modest at 11.90 -0.4/23.47 +1.8.

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              • #37
                There seems to be an endless supply of crossover sprinters and a lot of work required to document it. The obvious solution is for AS to contact former beach sprint champ Darren Peters with a plan to find a potential joint PhD student to exploit mercilessly to compile a complete history.

                Darren at Macquarie https://www.mq.edu.au/thisweek/2018/...darren-peters/

                And for Speedster to do a comparative training analysis, DP's sprint training handbook: https://research-management.mq.edu.a...en_access_.pdf

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                • #38
                  Is beach running exclusive to Australia? Why have I never heard of this excellent sport? Other countries/continents have beaches.

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by lonewolf View Post
                    Is beach running exclusive to Australia? Why have I never heard of this excellent sport? Other countries/continents have beaches.
                    The Live Saving World Championships have been held in many countries including the US twice. The 1961 Championships were held in land-locked Luxembourg..

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by lonewolf View Post
                      Is beach running exclusive to Australia? Why have I never heard of this excellent sport? Other countries/continents have beaches.
                      As far as I know, the southern hemisphere nations RSA, NZL and AUS do the straight sprint over 90m but it's not really a thing in the northern hemisphere, although it is included in the world championships.

                      A quick look shows the USA doesn't have the straight sprint at their championships but does have sprint relays (4x100), the sprint-based flags event and sprints as part of multi-leg competitions.

                      The reason is that there's been a lot of historical variation in approaches to lifesaving around the world and thus the associated competitions. This caused a lot of problems in creating international competitions but countries tried each others' events and eventually settled on things they could all do, or at least, adapt to quickly.

                      A lot of the major events like surf boats were initially created in Australia because we had local competitions from the early 20th century and National champs from early 1920s. By contrast, the USA didn't have it's first competition between West and East coast until some time in the 1960s.

                      This was primarily because USA lifeguards were mostly professional and employed by individual municipal authorities and not part of a broader national volunteer social movement like the lifesavers in AUS.

                      There was an international competiton organised in conjunction with the 1956 OGs which was attended by USA west coast lifesavers who introduced the malibu surf board to AUS. AUS took up the malibu which vastly expanded surfing in AUS and the USA took up the concept of a national association and competitions.

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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by El Toro View Post

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                        There was an international competiton organised in conjunction with the 1956 OGs which was attended by USA west coast lifesavers who introduced the malibu surf board to AUS. AUS took up the malibu which vastly expanded surfing in AUS and the USA took up the concept of a national association and competitions.
                        now that's a fascinating bit of history!

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                        • #42
                          Missed the Burnie Gift on 31 December.

                          Notable was Stewart McSweyn running a 4:00.41 off scratch in the mile, the fastest ever scratch time in Burnie. Unfortunately, the handicappers gave what seems overly genours marks as McSweyn only finished mid-field. The shortest mark was 95m, the winner off 210.

                          It would be interesting to see what he could do on grass when peaked rather than as a training run. I think he take down Snell's time without too much trouble.

                          Jake Doran, Jack Hale and Ash Moloney ran in the Gift, all off 0.5 along with Fejiro Omvwie (2.0), all of which were probably too little at this time of year. None made the final. They all, apart from Hale, backed up in the Invitational, also over 120m, and the adjusted handicaps produced a tight finish, with Sophie Fighera not fighering in the money:

                          Fejiro Omuvwie 3.00 12.62 750$
                          Ash Moloney 2.00 12.67 300$
                          Jake Doran Scr 12.69 150$
                          Aaron Leferink 4.50 12.80
                          Sophia Fighera 13.00 12.83
                          Jordan Sarmento 3.00 12.84
                          Caleb Law 2.00 12.87

                          V-e's favourite, Claudia Hollingsworth also was backmarker (12.0) in the 400 and ran 55.28 to finish well down as she did in the 800m, again off scratch and giving away a minimum of 80m to those ahead of her. Her time was 2:16.20.

                          Links to video and results at: https://www.tascarnivals.com.au/news...21-with-a-bang

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                          • #43
                            Stewart McSweyn talks about his training on the Australian podcast, Inside Running: https://insiderunningpodcast.podbean...uest-co-hosts/

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                            • #44
                              Patrick Tiernan seems to be moving on from the Oregon Track Club, no reason given.

                              His Insta post: https://www.instagram.com/p/CYsPoM3L7Ss/

                              Also note that the post says he is running the Houston half marathon shortly.

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                              • #45
                                Competitions over the weekend include:

                                BRISBANE

                                The Norma Croker Shield unfortunately sees som big names missing from the lists.

                                100 Hartmann
                                400 Hartmann
                                HJ Miers


                                CANBERRA

                                The combined ACT & NSW Multis Champs to be held at Woden from tomorrow. Alec Diamond & Tori West the favourites for the Open events.

                                MELBOURNE

                                In the first meet at Lakeside, starters include Celeste Mucci (100H) and junior Tayleb Willis (100/110H).

                                Mia Gross, Kendra Hubbard, Michael Romanin and Nana Owusu are down for the 100/200s in Geelong.

                                ADELAIDE

                                ETA - Aidan Murphy may be looking for that 200m record in what look to be good conditions at Mile End today. Sister Melarn is down for the 60m and 200m and hopefully she can inch nearer to her best form from a few years back. Young State sprint Champ Lakara Stallen makes her rreturn to the track too.
                                Last edited by Vault-emort; 01-14-2022, 08:16 PM.

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