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Originally posted by Wiederganger View Post
Considering she's at 37 already in May, and she has the whole of June to get through yet, including NCAA meets & the US Trials, she will be around De Grasse's number or more by the time/IF she get's the the Worlds.
Re 200m candidates, Brown has looked ominous and could be a threat behind Thomas, who must be the favourite. It might be a blanket finish though.
The WCTs themselves she may be fine particularly if she sticks to one event. Bouncing back from NCAA and WCT competition for the WCs may be the bigger issue.
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Originally posted by NotDutra5 View Post
NCAA Regionals....her next adventure...are prelims and shouldn't be all that taxing for her. The NCAA meet itself will require 2 races in the 100m, 200m, and 4 x 100m and possibly the 4 x 400m although it's possible they could sit her until the final for the longer relay assuming she runs it.
The WCTs themselves she may be fine particularly if she sticks to one event. Bouncing back from NCAA and WCT competition for the WCs may be the bigger issue.
(I note championship setting because pro athletes timelines are way different, so the one-off meets they run against NCAA athletes arent as relevant. ex LSU Joe May Invite)
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Originally posted by gm View Post
Help me out... where can I find the European version of this -- https://www.usada.org/news/athlete-test-history/
The only data that seems to get published in places I've looked is aggregate data that doesn't identify individuals and positive tests where athletes and their offence details are published. Even the offence publication varies in detail depending on the country according to this somewhat dated but excitingly titled 2017 report:
An evaluation of the anti-doping laws and practices in the EU Member States in light of the General Data Protection Regulation
Go to Section 5.10 Analysis and Publication of Data for some background (or read the whole thing if you want to test your sanity!).
This study regards the relationship between anti-doping laws and practices in the EU and the European data protection framework, in particular the General Data Protection Regulation. The main four objectives of this research project were: a) to prepare a complete list of all relevant legislation at national level in the 28 EU Member States, in particular provisions providing a legal basis for the processing of personal data in the context of anti-doping activities; b) to determine, on the basis of the results of the aforementioned exercise and other relevant factors, a representative sample of twelve EU Member States that would be studied in more detail; c) to perform research on the scope and nature of personal data processing for anti-doping purposes in these twelve EU Member States, on the basis of the anti-doping practice defined in the World Anti-Doping Code (WADC) and its associated standards and on the basis of interviews performed with the National Anti-Doping Organisations (NADOs) and the International Federations (IFs); d) to identify cases, on the basis of the research performed above, and in the light the fundamental rights to privacy and data protection, that would need to be addressed by national legislation in order to ensure lawful processing of personal data in the antidoping context.
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Originally posted by El Toro View Post
I don't think there will be a Euro version because there are multiple testing agencies involved, either based in individual countries or groups of countries or third party providers.
Last edited by Wiederganger; 05-24-2022, 08:08 AM.
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Originally posted by NotDutra5 View PostBouncing back from NCAA and WCT competition for the WCs may be the bigger issue.
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Originally posted by Wiederganger View Post
Exactly. Why on earth anyone would expect there to be a European-wide database, when there is no European testing agency, is beyond me. A non-existent database based on a geographical continent also has nothing to do with the NCAA not fully aligning to WADA, but hey, some people just get a wee bit defensive and like to have a dig, rather than just accept a fact. 🤷
Your snarky/sneaky little asides leave you wide open to digs.
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Not at all, it's not a pro-European/anti-America perspective, it's an anti-drugs perspective. There's plenty of doping in European countries, which I am more than happy to discuss, but this has nothing to do with the conversation I was having, which was about potential reasons why some US College athletes go backwards in form when they go pro (you know this, of course)
I'm stating a well known fact, that NCAA testing protocols are not aligned to WADA, which is an issue. But rather than just accept and acknowledge that, gm was trying to be smart. But it failed.
I'd actually turn this around on it's head, and say American posters are far too defensive about college sports testing, play down it's significance and cannot stand any criticism of it. But hey ho.Last edited by Wiederganger; 05-25-2022, 09:35 AM.
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Originally posted by gm View Post
The answer is -- there is no transparency in doping control in any European country.
Rather than continue to change the course of this thread, if you want to continue this discussion further, feel free to DM me, I'm more than happy to debate this off line. 😗
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