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  • JMysterio
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    If you've got an hour to kill here's a static camera shot of the Stockholm warmup track. Looks like Femke in the yellow top and black tights in the first ten minutes.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dz_gqmJHikg
    Last edited by JMysterio; 07-02-2022, 11:36 PM.

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  • Atticus
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    Originally posted by gh View Post
    in the end it makes no difference, since once you're in the air nothing you can do makes any change in your speed. What is important is getting into a position where you land with the greatest extension possible (without falling back on impact).
    I'm still wondering why people do anything in the air with their feet except get them up and out of the way. Lean forward so you can move your center of gravity (the whole buttual area) slightly forward.

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  • gh
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    Originally posted by midwestfan View Post
    ....
    Question on physics that I saw and don't have answer for: 1) Long Jumping: Is "bicycling" through the air better than "stationary feet forward" leap?? .....
    in the end it makes no difference, since once you're in the air nothing you can do makes any change in your speed. What is important is getting into a position where you land with the greatest extension possible (without falling back on immpact).

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  • midwestfan
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    First time I used Peacock to watch a track meet and amazing 2 hours of no commercials and saw all field and diamond track events, shorter and more interesting than a Sunday NFL or MLB game.
    Question on physics that I saw and don't have answer for: 1) Long Jumping: Is "bicycling" through the air better than "stationary feet forward" leap?? 2) In steeplechase is it more efficient to hurdle water jump and land deeper in water than to step on bar and leap further and shallower into the water? I have steeplechased twice (once in HS and once as a Freshman in College and feared if I missed stepping on the hurdle, I would fall into waist high water and never get out and be trampled by runners behind me??
    Mondo is unbelievable and has such a great superior form and ability to stretch over a 20'+bar. Great role model and representative for T&F and Sweden home crowd.

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  • Atticus
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    Originally posted by treadwater1 View Post
    I'm surprised more people aren't talking about Alekna,
    The Olympic champ (Chopra) throws another nation record and it's only good enough for 2nd in the second meet in a row.
    IMO, Alekna has moved into the top three with Stahl and Ceh.
    Chopra/Peters is a pick-em in Eugene.

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  • treadwater1
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    Originally posted by catson52 View Post
    Few postings re two pretty good events. The JT with two at or very near the 90 m mark, even now pretty tough to reach. And the 3000 m run with two below 7:30, still pretty good - Komen seemingly still out of reach of ordinary mortals. Last 400 well below 60 seconds, no wonder Kiplimo wilted a bit. Lobalu looked fantastic with a last lap at about 55 seconds. What's this guys background?
    I'm surprised more people aren't talking about Alekna, I thought that was one of the biggest talking points of the night. That was his first time throwing against most of those guys and he nearly beat them all, at 19. He's gone from 63.52 ➡ 66.70 ➡ 67.68 ➡ 68.73 ➡ 69.00 ➡ 69.81. Golds at world and European U20 level suggest he is good at keeping his nerve

    The Olympic champ (Chopra) throws another nation record and it's only good enough for 2nd in the second meet in a row. He doesn't compete much but when he does show up he operates at a high level

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  • LopenUupunut
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    Originally posted by catson52 View Post
    Few postings re two pretty good events. The JT with two at or very near the 90 m mark, even now pretty tough to reach. And the 3000 m run with two below 7:30, still pretty good - Komen seemingly still out of reach of ordinary mortals. Last 400 well below 60 seconds, no wonder Kiplimo wilted a bit. Lobalu looked fantastic with a last lap at about 55 seconds. What's this guys background?
    South Sudanese native, fled the wars to Kenya as a boy and took up running there. Competed for the countryless Athlete Refugee Team in the 1500 at the 2017 World Champs, eliminated in the heats. Been based in Switzerland since 2019. Steady improvements over a variety of distances in the last couple of years, but nothing that suggested a 7:29 or outkicking Kiplimo. Previous PB 7:49; other PBs include 3:39, 13:34, 27:58 and 1:01:01.

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  • catson52
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    Few postings re two pretty good events. The JT with two at or very near the 90 m mark, even now pretty tough to reach. And the 3000 m run with two below 7:30, still pretty good - Komen seemingly still out of reach of ordinary mortals. Last 400 well below 60 seconds, no wonder Kiplimo wilted a bit. Lobalu looked fantastic with a last lap at about 55 seconds. What's this guys background?

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  • JMysterio
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    Originally posted by 18.99s View Post

    3rd full season. She had 10 meets with the 400mh in 2019.

    But yes, SM and DM have far more experience in it than Bol. McLaughlin has 400mh times on her World Athletics profile going back to 2014, and Muhammad going back to 2005!
    That's true even though most of them were U20 meets. Near the end of the season she started getting in more elite meets.

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  • jla
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    Originally posted by Wiederganger View Post
    Great run from Bol on a cool evening and with a very untidy last hurdle. Was worth more than that. Sub 52 in Eugene for sure.
    Actually it was a for Stockholm very warm evening with the temperature in the (on the infield non-existent) shade around 26 C when Bol ran.
    It was still 23-24 C when the meet ended at 10 p.m. (when the sun had yet to set!!).

    So weatherwise the conditions were close to ideal (the at times somewhat gusty wind the only problem).

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  • Atticus
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    Originally posted by clementina View Post
    Just as likely to be a tactical 1.57 ish type race.
    Originally posted by clementina View Post
    I firmly predict it will not be the Tokyo re run.
    Originally posted by clementina View Post
    Nothing makes track and field more fun than when one sees the fans who absolutely know what's going to happen fall flat on their faces.
    Self-deprecation is an endearing trait.

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  • 18.99s
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    Originally posted by JMysterio View Post
    And again, something that is still ignored is this is only her second full season of running the hurdles. The goddesses have been running this event since high school.
    3rd full season. She had 10 meets with the 400mh in 2019.

    But yes, SM and DM have far more experience in it than Bol. McLaughlin has 400mh times on her World Athletics profile going back to 2014, and Muhammad going back to 2005!

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  • JMysterio
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    Originally posted by Awsi Dooger View Post
    Bol must not have liked it during the press conference yesterday when they introduced her as the backup plan. The hostess matter of factly said we didn't invite you or promote you but the woman we did invite didn't get here in time, so we'll talk to you instead.

    Bol did a great job carrying more speed around the final turn. It equated to the first time she has gone well under 16 seconds from 8 home. She reached 8 at the same time as Oslo -- 36.5 -- but finished 15.77 seconds later instead of 16.11 in Oslo, after chopping to 16 steps on 10.

    I don't think she can go much faster than that from 8 home. My offseason estimate was 15.7 best case. She probably could have been 15.7 today if not for the wobble over 10 which caused her right shoulder to dip and a sideways step to the right. That slight loss of balance obviously is Bol's tendency when she's not accustomed to carry that much speed late. The same type of shoulder dip happened in Ostrava after the final hurdle during the 36.86 at 300.

    Entering 2022 I thought the two areas she could improve was more aggressive on the final turn and remaining much closer to the left lane line during turns. She has started to maximize the first part. But there hasn't been any change toward greater loyalty to the left side. She was very wide after 8 today, the same thing that happened in Tokyo when there was such a glaring difference between where Dalilah and Sydney were positioned compared to Femke.
    I have a question about this part of your forensic analysis. Are you saying that she only lost 7 hundredths of a second over that last hurdle? I immediately groaned and figured she not only lost time because she ended up taking a longer route to the finish, but she lost time regaining her balance and momentum. I'm guessing .25 and the commentators also believed without that it would've been close to 52.00.

    And again, something that is still ignored is this is only her second full season of running the hurdles. The goddesses have been running this event since high school.

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  • JMysterio
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    Originally posted by clementina View Post

    Keely H is no more "devalued" than the "unbeatable" Mu was when earlier in the year she was not yet on song.There may be no pacer in the final so who knows ; as for the posters on this Forum predicting absurdly quick times by 3 athletes...weird.A lot of predictions for the final of the 800m may well depend on whether a mistake is made in a top 2 only semi, or a very tough semi to make the final. I firmly predict it will not be the Tokyo re run.
    Well yes, I mean devalued in the fans' eyes. I think she just had a poor race, for sure poor tactics if you can even call them tactics.

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  • clementina
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    [QUOTE=SoCal45;n1756631]

    won't predict a USA sweep but I do agree all 3 will be under 1:55.50...now it is up to the others to do the same![/
    what, another possible sweep. How moderate. Not only will it have athletes from other countries but it wont be 3 USA women under 1.55.50, I predict. Just as likely to be a tactical 1.57 ish type race.The medallists dont care much about times, only Forums.

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