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Having just read today's (April 1) world cross results I have two comments...great race by Adam Goucher to place 6th...he beat two guys who just recently ran 12:56 and 12:58 track 5000m....but my other comment is regarding the winning time ...slower than the U.S. winning time (10:50 Vs. 10:54). I would think a guy like Bekele would run around 10:30 in a 4000m...so I'm assuming the conditions must have slowed the time i.e. windy, muddy, whatever...does anyone know?
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Re: World cross-country comment(s)
It was cool and quite windy out there yesterday. Today (Sunday) it seems milder, but the course may be softer. There was some rain overnight and we may have some more before or during the races.Originally posted by BYU grad
Edited to add update on weather. It was a little warmer today. The rain cleared out a couple of hours before the first race and the sun even came out. But it was very, very windy. -
re US xc nationals, I wasn't there, but the impression I got from watching the TV broadcast & reading about those races was that the course was fast -- sub-freezing temps, hard surface. However, I don't know how windy it was, and the temps seemed to me too cold for optimal racing (didn't seem to bother most of those runners, however).Comment
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I am under the impression that XC courses are not measured that accurately and that differences in the course and true distance matter. For instance, I seem to recall a comment that there was a turn at the bottom of a hill, which will definitely slow the runners down. Also, didn't it rain a lot overnight?Originally posted by Master PoComment
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I do not see how the 4, 6, 8 and 12 km courses at the US trials in VCP could have been the stated distances. All but the last loop included a 'dogleg' that was skipped on the last lap of each race. That is, the last lap of each race was shorter than the earlier two km loop(s).Comment
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Kenyan Men back on top. Looks like they are ready to host.
Long Course
1 Kenya 24
2 Eritrea 28
3 Ethiopia 42
4 Morocco 62
12 United States 206
Short Course
1 Kenya 21
2 Ethiopia 48
3 Morocco 53
4 Qatar 66
5 United States 80
Juniors
1 Kenya 16
2 Ethiopia 24
3 Eritrea 45
4 Uganda 87
9 United States 178
WXC06 resultsComment
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^I can't remember Bekele ever not saying he'll refrain from attempting another double, and he always turned back on his words. Maybe it's just the anti-climax that always makes him believe he'll never be hungry again for the the titles, or maybe it's just his way of sending mixed messages to his rivals..... Or, maybe this time he'll really make good of his word.137Comment
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Bekele retire Cross country
Leaving some place for brother to win?
Or maybe run on the roads instead for $?Comment
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He gave no "word". In athletics it's not the same as making a promise to people in your personal life, or for that matter just keeping your word (in case you don't like the concept of "promising"). He spoke to the media about his intentions at this time, and if he changes his mind later, so what? That some sort of integrity problem or something?Originally posted by La_Spigola_Loca
If Bekele says he's gonna run so-and-so meet this summer and later he doesn't, who am I to say he didn't keep his word? These guys report to the media their intentions at the time, and let's remember that they don't owe anybody even that little information. If he comes back next year and runs the World XC, he didn't fail to keep his word. He didn't lie. We sometimes forget that it's really none of our business what Bekele plans on doing or if he even does it. This whole sport is about adjusting, adapting, and making decisions, often at the last minute.
Geb was going to double in Atlanta until his feet were so torn and bloodied that he decided not to. Guess he can't be trusted to keep his word, huh? Bekele was originally going to double in the 5 and 10 last summer, but changed his mind because he wanted his legs fresh for a WR attempt. Even under pressure from his own countrymen, he stood his ground. He never "failed to keep his word" and then he stood his ground and firmly stuck to his new plans. Let's be fair to the guy and be careful about casting any dispersions on his character without good reason.Comment
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bekele and athletes word.
As a general rule its better not to call anyone a liar unless you really know what you're talking about and even then you want to use caution.
But unfortunately, once your on top, there are all kinds of losers out there for some reason take it upon themselves to criticize....
For example, the hockey player Gretzky was hounded out of his home town early on due to criticism and jealousy. Very brutal. In effect, they were trying to negate an alltime great talent.
He went from Ontario to Quebec, you know where English is supposidly
resented a bit at least. He was welcomed with open arms his art work in hockey was much appreciated.
Once you become good, there is a line up of losers to slag you.
The same losers later on often jump on the band wagon....
The story is repeated over and over.
The good coach needs to mentor the athlete through this unfortunate phenomena.Comment
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Re: bekele and athletes word.
Kind of accurate but he would have had to leave shortly thereafter in any event because Brantford did not have a high enough level team.Originally posted by figo
Originally posted by figo
Wrong.Comment
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Gretzky moves out of town
Here is a map.
http://donblack.ca/images/maps/map-ontario.gif
You're saying that Gretz didn't want to stay close to home given the choice of the following ????
OHL
WEST
BRAMALEA
BRAMPTON
BUFFALO
BURLINGTON
GEORGETOWN
HAMILTON
MILTON
MISSISSAUGA
OAKVILLE
STREETSVILLE
NORTH
AURORA
COLLINGWOOD
COUCHICHING
MUSKOKA
NEWMARKET
SEGUIN
STOUFFVILLE
EAST
BANCROFT
BOWMANVILLE
COBOURG
KINGSTON
LINDSAY
OSWEGO
PETERBOROUGH
PORT HOPE
TRENTON
WELLINGTON
SOUTH
AJAX
MARKHAM
NORTH YORK
OSHAWA
PICKERING
ST. MICHAEL'S
TORONTO
VAUGHAN
WEXFORDComment
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Re: bekele and athletes word.
November 27, 2002Originally posted by MJD
CHA unveils new ad campaign
'Relax, it's just a game' asks parents
to chill out at the hockey rink
By Rick Hodgson
On a Toronto street, a police officer pulls over a driver for speeding.
During the exchange between the constable and the driver, the man’s son pipes up from the back seat:
“Come on. That was a bad call,” he says. “Stand up for yourself.”
The caption on this print ad reads: "What if kids pressured us the way we pressure them?"
It’s not a real scenario. It’s from a promotional video. But it makes a point.
The tag line reads: “What if kids pressured us the way we pressure them? Relax. It’s just a game.”
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Re: Gretzky moves out of town
Which is exactly what he did.Originally posted by figoComment
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