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  • 2022 women's AOY

    based on the number of posts originally in the Monaco thread, this now officially has a life of its own.


  • #2
    I saw someone mentioned Lyles as potential AOY in the mens....Mondo leads that by a long way. As for the women atm a toss up between Amusan and Syd and if Amusan breaks that WR again ill give it to her.
    Last edited by Mr Lover Lover; 08-11-2022, 03:43 AM.
    Apparently Ignorance is bliss

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    • #3
      Women AOY will be between SAFP, Jackson, Mclaughlin and Amusan. The 100 and 200 records are way tougher than the other two records. I don't think it's fair that they should not be considered just because they didn't break the WR.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Juicy News View Post
        Women AOY will be between SAFP, Jackson, Mclaughlin and Amusan. The 100 and 200 records are way tougher than the other two records. I don't think it's fair that they should not be considered just because they didn't break the WR.
        Well ETH won it last year, so I am sure that the sprinters will be on the list, but ETH's form last year was out of this world and no one expected that Tokyo triple from her.
        Apparently Ignorance is bliss

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        • #5
          Originally posted by DET59 View Post
          I would tend toward the same on the women's side, giving Sydney ("Sad" ?) the AOY (using her relay performances as the tie-breaker) and Amusan POY for her 100H WR unless she breaks it again, then I would reverse AOY/POY.
          Sorry, but for POY Syd's 50.68 is a mile above Amusan's 12.12.

          12.12 was conceivable anytime in the last 10 years. Before 2021, sub-51 would have been thought to be impossible anytime before 2040. Sub-12 would be in the same zip code as SM's 50.68, but not 12.12.
          Last edited by 18.99s; 08-11-2022, 01:22 PM.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by 18.99s View Post

            Sorry, but for POY Syd's 50.68 is a mile above Amusan's 12.12.

            12.12 was conceivable anytime in the last 10 years. Before 2021, sub-51 would have been thought to be impossible anytime before 2040. Sub-12 would be in the same zip code as SM's 50.68, but not 12.12.
            seems like the current spike tech aids longer races more than shorter ones. 100H (use to be?) is generally more of a prestige event than the 400h, so it makes sense that that record would be closer to whatever the current view of limits might be. And, I forget, is performance considered "one meet" or "one heat"? T.A. went under the record twice in a row as part of the same competition/event, which is pretty dang cool.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by ATK View Post
              [AOY]
              I think SAFP, Rojas, Amusan are top 3 in no order with McLaughlin 4th and Kipyegon 5th
              Rojas would need a WR to be in the running (certainly possible), Amusan has lost too many times, SAFP and Kipyegon essentially tied, but Syd is the clear leader with two WRs, WC win, being undefeated, and the two lesser meets' times faster than anyone else.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Atticus View Post
                Rojas would need a WR to be in the running (certainly possible), Amusan has lost too many times, SAFP and Kipyegon essentially tied, but Syd is the clear leader with two WRs, WC win, being undefeated, and the two lesser meets' times faster than anyone else.
                Rojas jumped 15.74m this year

                Amusan has a lot of losses, but I edge her over McLaughlin for multiple races and winning both Worlds and Commonwealth for now. She could drop down though. I think I was similarly critical of McLaughlin last year for not running enough.
                Last edited by ATK; 08-11-2022, 02:21 PM.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by ATK View Post

                  Rojas jumped 15.74m this year

                  Amusan has a lot of losses, but I edge her over McLaughlin for multiple races and winning both Worlds and Commonwealth for now. She could drop down though. I think I was similarly critical of McLaughlin last year for not running enough.
                  You can't be in the AOY conversation with 6 losses in your event. POY, sure.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by gm View Post

                    You can't be in the AOY conversation with 6 losses in your event. POY, sure.
                    So Elaine Thompson's 4 losses in the 100/200 last year (5 including an outdoor 60m) weren't factored?

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by ATK View Post
                      Rojas jumped 15.74m this year
                      which is why she was INDOOR AOY.

                      https://trackandfieldnews.com/2022-i...s-of-the-year/
                      Last edited by Atticus; 08-11-2022, 02:58 PM.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Atticus View Post
                        I thought field events are recognized for both indoors and out. I'll always have gripes with criteria, it is what it is

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by ATK View Post

                          So Elaine Thompson's 4 losses in the 100/200 last year (5 including an outdoor 60m) weren't factored?
                          Amusan's season isn't really comparable to Thompson-Herah's 2021. Even ignoring Thompson-Herah's 200 races (where she was Olympic champ and ran the second-fastest time ever), in the 100 she lost 2 of 11 races and her marks included:

                          10.54 (de facto WR), 10.61, 10.64, 10.65, 10.71, 10.72, 10.76, 10.78, so 7 supporting races (and an additional 10.76w) within 0.25 of her SB

                          Amusan has lost 6 of 14 races and her marks so far include:

                          12.12 WR, 12.30, and an additional 12.06w, with no other sub-12.40s and only two additional races sub-12.50

                          Of course, Amusan still has time to improve her credentials, but for now, it's hard to see her in the same category as McLaughlin, SAFP, Rojas (whose indoor WR will be considered, as with all field events), and Kipyegon.

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                          • #14
                            Thats the fun in discussing AOY, theres objective criteria, but its all still very subjective (If I remember, Rojas had more #1s than ETH last year!)

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by ATK View Post

                              Rojas jumped 15.74m this year

                              Amusan has a lot of losses, but I edge her over McLaughlin for multiple races and winning both Worlds and Commonwealth for now. She could drop down though. I think I was similarly critical of McLaughlin last year for not running enough.
                              We'll have to get the US into the Commonwealth I guess.

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