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Another thing that I find insanely strange is that Shericka Jackson has a vote for #10. I know each panel member gets their own individual vote, but I find it impossible to make an unbiased argument for 9 women ahead of Jackson this year.
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1. No brit at the topOriginally posted by Atticus View Post
2. Not a personal friend of any of their parents, so...
3. Not interested.
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Good points, but the best women's mark of 2022 is still 850th on the all-time list and the top marks are all 2.5 to 3.5 feet shy of what Adams was throwing 10-15 years ago. If a male was dominating the shot all year throwing around 72' he wouldn't be anywhere near the top 10. Ealey has a great season, but the marks just aren't at AOY level.Originally posted by Atticus View PostComment
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Adams was a generational freak.
Ealey's season was probably the best since Schwanitz in 2015. Carter had a longer throw in 2016, but that was her only 20m+ throw in 2016.Comment
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Ironically Ealey has a British coach.Originally posted by Steele View Post
I will say that, unless it is in a part of the stadium near where you are sitting, the shot is the field event where there is the biggest danger of it passing you by. It occupies a relatively small portion of the infield, it is difficult to see whether a throw is particularly big or not and they can get through the rounds fairly quickly so it is difficult to keep tabs on a specific thrower while following another event more closely.Comment
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All good points.
New idea: portable ring and landing area that can be rolled out in five minutes to the 75m-100m mark of the finishing straight. Hold the shot right on the finish line! Granted, it shuts down all the running events, but...Comment
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Speaking of Athletes of the Year, Katie Ledecky just nosed out McLaughlin by the AP, tie vote, but the swimmer had more # 1 votes which broke the tie.Comment
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Literally the only way I can rationalize Mu's ranking is that she's an American Nike athlete who is considered a generational talent and that her reputation and the hype around her caused her good, but not outstanding, season to be ranked highly by an American publication. She competed in 4 meets over 800, for which her results were 2:02, 1:57.01, 1:57.16, and 1:56.30. Yes I know she had Covid which impacted her season but that doesn't change the fact that her season is just far less impressive than many of the athletes ranked behind her. And I say this as someone who has been a fan of her since that 600m AR in 2019.
Ruth Chepngetich ran the 2nd and 11th fastest marathons of all time (and the 11th fastest is also the second fastest women's only).
Gudaf Tsegay got a gold and a silver at the WC, had 3 sub 3:55 1500s indoor and outdoor, had a sub 14:30, and is world indoor champ over 1500.
Chase Ealey had 7!! meets over 20m, was undefeated outdoors, and is the World and DL champ, as well as indoor silver.
Kimberly Garcia is the only person, male or female, this year to be WC in two individual events and set an area record over 35k.
Letesenbet Gidey is a world champ, ran 2 sub 14:30s over 5k, ran the fastest debut over marathon to become 6th fastest ever over the distance, and her 10k winning time is the 25th AT performance. For reference, Mu's world lead of 1:56.30 doesn't even crack the top 100.
Even when compared to other athletes who also competed relatively sparingly, Mu's season also doesn't hold up. Faith Kipyegon also only had 4 meets but she ran the 2nd, 10th, and 11th AT performances over 1500m, AND became DL champ. Yulimar Rojas only had 4 outdoor meets but she jumped the 5th, 15th, and 19th farthest outdoor jumps, in addition to her outright world record indoors to become indoor champion, as well as retaining her DL title. I don't think I can say anything about SML that hasn't already been said. Even Norah Jeruto, who's season probably stands closest to Mu's in terms of similarity and quality, had a clearly better season. She was WC and had the 3rd, 13th, and 30th best AT performances.
There is just such a huge gap between the quality of the seasons of all these other athletes and Mu. Even though I like her and I think she's one of the brightest stars in the sport right now, I just can't take her ranking by T&FN this year at all seriously. It makes absolutely zero sense to have her above all the other athletes I mentioned, as well as some others (Bol, Yehualaw, etc.)Comment
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fwiw, my top 10:
1. Rojas
2. McLaughlin
3. Fraser-Pryce
4. Jackson
5. Kipyegon
6. Amusan
7. Garcia
8. Gidey
9. Ealey
10. Jeruto
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Trying to compare athletes in different events is entertaining....but I wouldn't take it too seriously.Comment
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on topic, please.Comment
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Personally I thought Mu had a marvelous season and did what she wanted to accomplish. Whether she should have run more is neither here nor there. But is just my opinion. As Gauss once said...'Few, but ripe!'Last edited by Conor Dary; 12-30-2022, 05:52 PM.Comment
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Very much like this list. Personally might substitute Chepngetich or Bol for Jeruto but it's a really good and accurate ranking to meOriginally posted by gh View PostComment
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It may have been said earlier in this long thread, but I find it disappointing that 4 of the top 10 had seasons of only 4 competitions in their specialties. I'm not saying they don't deserve their ranking, but we are being deprived of too many great head to heads. It seems they're engineering a season with minimal risk of losing, and lots of rest between meets to ensure only fast times.
On another note, unbelievable series of 8 fast times by Shelly-Ann. I can't remember a better example of high level consistency, men or women. And at 35! The above 4 should take a leaf out of her book. I think she should be number 3.Comment
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