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  • It seems they're engineering a season with minimal risk of losing, and lots of rest between meets to ensure only fast times.

    Running fast and not losing...Sounds a good plan to me!
    Last edited by Conor Dary; 12-30-2022, 07:53 PM.

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    • Originally posted by berkeley View Post
      but we are being deprived of too many great head to heads.
      Wait, so your telling me the creation of the Diamond League over a decade ago, which was billed as getting the biggest stars to go head to head, hasn't solved this issue yet?

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      • The DL meets are fine for the most part. I found them entertaining.

        Coe with the Rankings for qualifying is trying to improve the meets. But you can only do so much if the stars don't want to run.

        Anyways nothing new. The Covett series was supposed to get Coe and Ovett to race more. That was a bust but some memorable races nonetheless, such as the 3000 in Crystal Palace in 1982

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        • Originally posted by Conor Dary View Post
          But you can only do so much if the stars don't want to run.
          With the advent of more sophisticated peaking regimens, it's no surprise that medal contenders back off the smaller pay days for the bigger one (enhanced by contract incentives).

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          • Lest we forget, Covid was (and is) still a thing. I don't count abbreviated seasons against anyone right now.

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            • Meanwhile....

              After winning Olympic gold as a teenager, Mu became the youngest woman to ever claim both world and Olympic titles in an individual athletics event when she again held off Hodgkinson to secure victory on home soil at the World Athletics Championships Oregon22. Clocking a world-leading 1:56.30, Mu maintained her unbeaten year and an outdoor win streak that dates back to September 2019.

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              • Originally posted by Conor Dary View Post
                The DL meets are fine for the most part. I found them entertaining.

                Coe with the Rankings for qualifying is trying to improve the meets. But you can only do so much if the stars don't want to run.

                Anyways nothing new. The Covett series was supposed to get Coe and Ovett to race more. That was a bust but some memorable races nonetheless, such as the 3000 in Crystal Palace in 1982
                Nothing new, but it just seems particularly bad this year on the womens side.

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                • Originally posted by berkeley View Post

                  Nothing new, but it just seems particularly bad this year on the womens side.
                  They might not offer as much as the men.

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                  • Originally posted by Conor Dary View Post

                    They might not offer as much as the men.
                    I think having an "early" WC not in Europe, COVID, combined with a "late" 2021 Olympics were bigger factors for lack of DL competitors than one might think, plus DL prize money is just not that great for those at the top of the game.

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                    • How often has someone who has set a world record (not relay) in a standard "in stadia" track and field event not been selected for AOY because it was given to someone else who did not break a world record that year? I believe on the men's side, since 2000, it has pretty much gone to athlete's breaking a world record except in years when no records were broken (Barshim 2017, Bondereko 2013, etc).... is the women's side similar? Was 2022 was pretty unique in the number of world records broken (in this century) ?

                      Has anyone who has broken a standard event world record ever been ranked lower than Amusan at 6th? Strange (but great) year indeed !


                      Last edited by DET59; 12-31-2022, 09:13 AM.

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                      • I think it would be someone like Pechonkina in 2003 - WR, but not much of a season outside Russia and finished 3rd at the WC, then 3rd in the TFN rankings for 400mH, so I can’t see her being too high up the AOY

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                        • Originally posted by Conor Dary View Post
                          It seems they're engineering a season with minimal risk of losing, and lots of rest between meets to ensure only fast times.

                          Running fast and not losing...Sounds a good plan to me!
                          Not losing because of dodging and hiding. Meh.

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                          • Makes you wonder about the incentive structure of the contracts, etc., if the athletes are steering toward fewer comps when they are at their absolute peak. Not saying it's good or bad. In the business world you structure a pay plan to give you the results you want from the employee. I'd say the same thing is happening here.

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                            • We've had a couple of "weird" years which likely contributed to some lack of competitions...Covid and an early WC as mentioned above. I think if this continues through '23 we'll have both a pattern and a problem.

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                              • Originally posted by DET59 View Post
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                                Has anyone who has broken a standard event world record ever been ranked lower than Amusan at 6th? Strange (but great) year indeed !


                                we've had at least one incident (Povarnitsin) of somebody breaking WR aand not even making the HJ rankings, let alone having a low AOY rating

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