2022 women's AOY

[18.99s]

Completely agree with everything you've said, except all meets this season would be "soft" for her in the 400IH...heck she won the WC by 15 meters.

All meets so far may look soft in hindsight, but the 2 meets she chose were knowingly soft before the fact.

And for the rest of this season, she doesn't know that she can sustain sub-52 for 3 or 4 additional meets if she chose to continue competing, nor that Bol won't pop a sub-51 or 52-low and beat her. Remember the emotional video she posted after the Olympics? She's shying away from competition because she hates the pressure. If her sponsor didn't require a certain number of meets she would have called it quits right after the world championships.

[Atticus]

She [Syd] is one of a number of possible AOY.

Right now she is a clear # 1, and her season is over.
To unseat her would probably take at least one and maybe two WRs. Rojas could do 2+. Kipyegon could get 1. SAFP is close. Amusan is out because of her many losses.

But as it stands now, Syd is the AOY-apparent.

[ATK]

Just for some context, here are the marks Yulimar Rojas has jumped this year:

15.74m WR
15.47m
15.41m
15.39m
15.36m
15.35m
15.24m
15.19m
15.04m
15.01m

[Atticus]

While even her outdoor-only marks are sensational

15.47
15.01
14.83
14.72

she's not in Syd's zip-code . . . yet.

[Big Tusk]

Just for some context, here are the marks Yulimar Rojas has jumped this year:

15.74m WR
15.47m
15.41m
15.39m
15.36m
15.35m
15.24m
15.19m
15.04m
15.01m

Does this include the ancillary marks?

[ATK]

Does this include the ancillary marks?

Yes, those are all her 15m jumps

[bobguild76]

Right now she is a clear # 1, and her season is over.
To unseat her would probably take at least one and maybe two WRs. Rojas could do 2+. Kipyegon could get 1. SAFP is close. Amusan is out because of her many losses.

But as it stands now, Syd is the AOY-apparent.

Ditto. Well said.

[clementina]

Unless Amusan can go under 12 McLaughlin will be a lock for AOY.

Rojas for me. Her domination of her contemporaries is at least as great as any other athlete. We all know that on this site SM will always be favoured,and I personally await other verdicts at the end of the season.

[Diara31]

a run for their money? my money would be on SM to win easily.

Lol. There's nothing bad in 'fangirling' over Sydney. But you're in for a shocker if you think she has a chance against 2019 Salwa and the 2019 or 2020 version of Shaunae who looked primed for something big before injury struck. (btw she still went on to win the Olympics in 48.36). She split 47.91 with a running start but you think she's beating a 48.14 from a open 400m? She had a very good chance of breaking the American record before she decided to shut down her season early.....again.
I've said this before on this forum, and i'll say it again, this isn't the 2019 version of Sydney where she was just hopping and chopping her strides all over those hurdles. She's so much refined now, and has her honed her technique to such a level that perhaps only prime Dalilah Muhammad is/was capable of.

[gh]

Rojas for me. Her domination of her contemporaries is at least as great as any other athlete. We all know that on this site SM will always be favoured,and I personally await other verdicts at the end of the season.

I'm probably (very) narrowly in the Rojas corner at this point too

[18.99s]

Lol. There's nothing bad in 'fangirling' over Sydney. But you're in for a shocker if you think she has a chance against 2019 Salwa and the 2019 or 2020 version of Shaunae who looked primed for something big before injury struck.

SM won't beat Miller-Uibo by just jumping straight into a 400m race based on 400m hurdles training. But if she quits the hurdles and focuses on the flat 400m for a whole season or two, low-48 is likely.

[TN1965]

Will Miller Uibo be racing 400 next year? I thought she was moving down to 200.

[ATK]

Will Miller Uibo be racing 400 next year? I thought she was moving down to 200.

Yes, she has been clear this is her last year at the 400m. She will be doing the multis (planing to do it indoors) and the 200m.

And having both won her world title and the return of Naser (who SMU has been vocal about her ban: https://www.instagram.com/p/CGmmCOvJma3/) I see no reason for her to keep running an event if she really doesn't want to.

[Atticus]

We all know that on this site SM will always be favoured

If you think the case for SM is just homerism, you have not been paying attention to past AOY discussions; this is about the best case that can be made.
I see the Rojas case, but many of us believe the SM case is just better.
I await Rojas's 2nd WR to put her equal (better?) than Syd. I think she can do it.

[cajun5150]

Agree that Duplantis meets the criteria as well.

Ok , now I'm Cheating and going out of bounds now but I would only argue Bubka may have been the equal of Duplantis and has just as many All-time top 10 marks. Syd has 7 out of the top 10 All time and no one is her equal. Of course now we are merely arguing which Greatest Athlete the Event has Ever Seen is AOY. Amazing to have a discussion about Generational Talent like these 2.

Duplantis already has 50!!!! 6m or better jumps he is 22, Bubka had 46 in his entire career. You are judging Bubka against an incomplete body of work........