Krummenacker theory

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>Who would of [sic] thought at around this time Webb was planning to
>takeover US distance running.

The question should be: who would be surprised by it?

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The person that started this thread almost a year ago may have the answer on what happened to Krummenacker this year. Apparently this posters concerns where justified.
I went back to this post because I remembered it after Krummenacker failed to qualify for the Olympic team several weeks ago. I just didn't have either the time or patience to scroll back through the posts. It takes longer than you think.


I don't agree with the Joe Falcon analogy though.

This little known post may have the answer on what ailed Krummenacker at the trials. Ever since he cut back on his mileage Krummenacker has not been the same runner.

Who would of thought at around this time Webb was planning to takeover US distance running.

A large database such as this gives one the ability to look back and see things from a different perspective.

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The other problem with low mileage 800m runners is their ability to handle rounds. This is compounded by running full indoor and outdoor seasons. There are only so many races in the tank, before performances start to decline.
The Auoita, Morceli 2-3 hour runs are nothing unusual for world class 1500 runners (Snell, Ovett, Liquori).

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Lets hope he has the sense to skip the 800 and run the 1500 meter next year.

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He will run a 3:32 next year.

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Krummenacker should be well recovered for the indoor season.

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>Morcelli, and Aquita before
>him, ran high mileage. Much higher mileage than
>you know. Both trained for periods of time here
>in Gainesville and were observed going for 2-3
>hour runs at least once a week.

Wow - 2-3 hours AT LEAST once weekly! They should have just jumped into some local marathons and won some money. With that kind of volume I wonder why they didn't give the marathon a shot. They were probably running more miles than most marathoners.

That urban legend stuff leads to the problems currently facing US runners. BS!

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It is nice to see people talking about a miler other
than Alan Webb or Gabe Jennings. Especially, when you consider Krummenacker has actually performed at the elite level. The sad truth there is nobody else in US mile running worth talking about at any length of time.

What happened to Krummenacker's journal.

[KevinM]

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I'm not really sure the extent of Krum's volume at GaTech, but is it possible that several years of moderate base mileage at Tech followed by a year of speed-intensive work was an unintentional stroke of genius? Any chance we are now seeing the beginning of diminishing returns from the speed work?

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Let me set something straight that has been discussed on these pages and in some other, more important arenas. Morcelli, and Aquita before him, ran high mileage. Much higher mileage than you know. Both trained for periods of time here in Gainesville and were observed going for 2-3 hour runs at least once a week.

Don't let them fool you.

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Since Krummenacker is going to be 29 next year he may have no choice but to become a 1500-meter runner. Besides he has run the 4th faster 1500 meters ever by an American last year!!
I would say he is the top 1500-meter runner in North America. We have not seen an American 1500-meter runner this fast since Steve Holman.

Krummenacker is the EL. G of the North American 1500 meter running. In top condition he would beat Lunn by 20 meters in the 1500.

For the next four years Krummenacker is going to be America's best 1500-meter runner. Besides America still has some depth in the 800 meters. However, US 1500 meters running desperately needs someone with Krummenacker's speed.

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With lower mileage training the quality work can be maintained for a long period of time. The peaking isnt nearly so dramatic as with mega-mileage training. Krummenaker does the sort of training which suits him best. With lower miles, quality running is what the athlete gets used to, enjoys, and looks forward to doing. Running fast is simply routine. Plus or minus, I'd guess Krummenaker was in about the same fitness before US champs as World Indoor, he simply missed some important work due to injury and never quite got back to top racing form.

Krummenaker running his 50 minutes down near 5min/mi like Morcelli or El-G (or Maree and Moorcroft)? No. He is not a 1500/5000m runner and never will be. These other guys would lap Krummenaker in a 5k . For Krummenaker at least, the 50 minute run had little or nothing to do with his sucess in 2003.

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I pretty much agree with this theory. I also think he peaked indoors. When the emphasis is on quality (racing workouts, not finishing workouts because you run so hard early), it is hard to plan a complete season(both training and racing).

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They can start making a dent by running at least a 3:35 at the Olympic trail finals. At the US championship 1500-meter final this past summer many thought they were watching a slow race from the early 60's. I heard people were actually booing from the stands.

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He should skip the indoor season. Gear everything for next summer, for Athens, and let the chips fall where they may. Same goes for any other Americans hoping to make even the smallest dent on the world scene.