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  • ZazaShoya
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    Originally posted by lonewolf View Post

    Agree. The hip clearance is misleading. I guesstimated about 5 cm for the right knee. Still a magnificent vault.
    Data from Eugene were very insightful on that matter, with maximum height (necessary but not sufficient) and minimum distance from the bar at any time (which is more telling about the real margin).

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  • lonewolf
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    Originally posted by Fortius19 View Post
    Mondo's hips were way over the bar, but it looked like his knees cleared the bar by only about 2-3cm.

    Of course, it's an amazing accomplishment and a very clean vault, but I don't think he had much more in him that day.
    Agree. The hip clearance is misleading. I guesstimated about 5 cm for the right knee. Still a magnificent vault.

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  • Atticus
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    Originally posted by Fortius19 View Post
    Mondo's hips were way over the bar, but it looked like his knees cleared the bar by only about 2-3cm.
    That's just standards placement (which, of course, is what he's fighting every jump). He's mastered hip height on nearly every jump, but getting the standards right (within just a few cm's) requires knowing things that naturally vary every jump like: take-off location, speed of take-off, take-off angle, swing speed, push-off, body jackknife position - not to mention pole and grip selection. The PV is such a complicated algorithm, it's a wonder ANYone gets it right.

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  • Fortius19
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    Mondo's hips were way over the bar, but it looked like his knees cleared the bar by only about 2-3cm.

    Of course it's an amazing accomplishment, and a very clean vault, but I don't think he had much more in him that day.

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  • Dave
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    Has Lavillenie retired? He is in these videos and definitely not suited up.

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  • Davidokun
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    Originally posted by Dave View Post

    we’ve known for a long time that he is fast. I just didn’t realize that he is this fast.
    Just over six months to go until his match race against Shelly-Ann Fraser-Pryce... 😏

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  • Dave
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    Originally posted by Atticus View Post
    Speed kills.
    At 5'11/175# he's not big enough (Lisek!) to get on the big stix he needs unless he is bringing the Big Heat.
    we’ve known for a long time that he is fast. I just didn’t realize that he is this fast.

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  • DET59
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    Originally posted by ATK View Post

    Pre classic in June this year?
    Thanks, forgot they moved it to September in 2023

    Still keeping Crouser at -1.35

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  • DET59
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    Originally posted by Atticus View Post
    That's a negative, shipmate. He was over by so far today, he can hike it twice more and then go 6.25 at WC.
    If he gets a nice steady tailwind (1.5-2.0) outdoors, he could go 6.30 this year . . . easy.
    Absolutely, l I know he can but is the financial motivation there or is he better off waiting for WC' ? Mondo & Company are pretty shrewd and may milk this world record thing slowly (once or twice a year) and then go big, 230+, in LA '28.

    Crousers,got nothing 'to lose' going all out, outdoors?

    Scary to think how fast Mondo can go/how high he could hold with a bit of tailwind and a little altitude : )
    Last edited by DET59; 02-25-2023, 11:58 PM.

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  • ATK
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    Originally posted by DET59 View Post
    Who will break their new absolute WR next, Mondo or Crouser? Will Mondo save 6.23 for WC's? Will Crouser go big at June 16-17 Pre Classic ? I'm setting the Vegas line at -1.35 for Crouser.
    Pre classic in June this year?

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  • Atticus
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    Originally posted by DET59 View Post
    Will Mondo save 6.23 for WC's?
    That's a negative, shipmate. He was over by so far today, he can hike it twice more and then go 6.25 at WC.
    If he gets a nice steady tailwind (1.5-2.0) outdoors, he could go 6.30 this year . . . easy.

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  • DET59
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    Who will break their new absolute WR next, Mondo or Crouser? Will Mondo save 6.23 for WC's? Will Crouser go big at June 16-17 Pre Classic ? I'm setting the Vegas line at -1.35 for Crouser.

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  • Atticus
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    Originally posted by Dave View Post
    He was running 10m/Sec at the end. I’ve never heard of a pole vaulter being that fast. Not even Bubka.
    Speed kills.
    At 5'11/175# he's not big enough (Lisek!) to get on the big stix he needs unless he is bringing the Big Heat.

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  • Dave
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    “Duplantis court plus vite que tout le monde et maîtrise parfaitement le piqué. Ce soir il est chronométré arrivant au sautoir à 10m/s soit 36km/h sans se servir de de ses bras pour courir et portant une perche de 2.5kg.”

    He was running 10m/Sec at the end. I’ve never heard of a pole vaulter being that fast. Not even Bubka.

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  • gh
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    20-4¾

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