Tokyo 2020 Olympic Event Statistics

[ATK]

I'm working on some content and was wondering if anyone knows where to get access to the stats that were posted on the Tokyo 2020 Olympic website after each event? For example, 4x400 relay splits, Triple Jump phase distances etc.

In our event topics from last year, many of us posted the stats PDFs, but they are no longer accessible (Olympic website has changed). Anyone still have them somewhere?

Here were example posts with the PDFs that now are gone:
- Mixed 4x4 splits: https://forum.trackandfieldnews.com/...23#post1710623
- Womens triple jump phases: https://forum.trackandfieldnews.com/...29#post1711229

[gm]

I'm working on some content and was wondering if anyone knows where to get access to the stats that were posted on the Tokyo 2020 Olympic website after each event? For example, 4x400 relay splits, Triple Jump phase distances etc.

In our event topics from last year, many of us posted the stats PDFs, but they are no longer accessible (Olympic website has changed). Anyone still have them somewhere?

Here were example posts with the PDFs that now are gone:
- Mixed 4x4 splits: https://forum.trackandfieldnews.com/...23#post1710623
- Womens triple jump phases: https://forum.trackandfieldnews.com/...29#post1711229

https://library.olympics.com/default/digitalCollection/DigitalCollectionAttachmentDownloadHandler.ashx?parentDocumentId=849101&documentId=849108&skipWatermark=true&skipCopyright=true

[ATK]

https://library.olympics.com/default...Copyright=true

THANK YOU!!

[Atticus]

Womens triple jump phases: https://forum.trackandfieldnews.com/...29#post1711229

In Rojas' second jump - 47-8 (14.53) her second phase was 11-7 (3.54), a very good jump ratio (29%) for a . . . . . 40 (FORTY) foot jump !!

[noone]

In Rojas' second jump - 47-8 (14.53) her second phase was 11-7 (3.54), a very good jump ratio (29%) for a . . . . . 40 (FORTY) foot jump !!

I know that most analysts and fans believe Rojas would be even better if she lengthened her step phase. But this ratio works for her, and I wouldn't be surprised if it were eventually shown that she is right, because if you lengthen your step you can't get the proper leverage for the jump.

[DET59]

I know that most analysts and fans believe Rojas would be even better if she lengthened her step phase. But this ratio works for her, and I wouldn't be surprised if it were eventually shown that she is right, because if you lengthen your step you can't get the proper leverage for the jump.

She and Jonathan Edwards have almost indentical step "ratios" ...they must be doing something right : )

[Atticus]

if you lengthen your step you can't get the proper leverage for the jump.

If you're talking ideal 'Long Jump' dynamics, you're right. If you are talking about total Triple Jump distance, the bio-mechanics do not bear that out.
I think Mike Conley had it right in comparing TJing to stone-skipping.
Speed is key and a short step does that, but at too great a cost in distance not-traveled.

[Bruce Kritzler]

She and Jonathan Edwards have almost indentical step "ratios" ...they must be doing something right : )

That doesn’t pass the “eye” test.

[Atticus]

That doesn’t pass the “eye” test.

Because it is false.

Rojas was 37%-24%-38%
Edwards was 33%-29%-38%

[clementina]

That doesn’t pass the “eye” test.

It does not pass my eye sight test at all. JE's step in Gothenburg was long, with his bent leg thigh to knee cap hovering so long and he jumped rather well.He was fast with great technique.
I cannot bear to watch that 6 foot 4 inch lady jumping despite her WRs.

[Atticus]

I cannot bear to watch that 6 foot 4 inch lady jumping despite her WRs.

It's like watching K Clement refuse to alternate.
I had a nice talk with Aries Merritt in Eugene and asked him what he thought of his 'swim' technique. He said that's how he started hurdling and it was too hard to 'fix'. I don't know if he actually lost any time with the extra motion (sure looked that way), but It also gave me shudders like Ms. Rojas and Mr. Clement. My formal coaching education made me a biomechanics devotee and anything that looks wrong, probably is . . . Note Bene - the Fosbury Flop looked so right to me in 1968, I immediately switched to it. Same with fiberglass vaulting, not that I mastered it as a HSer (I did as a coach/masters athlete, 25 years later).

[gm]

It's like watching K Clement refuse to alternate.
I had a nice talk with Aries Merritt in Eugene and asked him what he thought of his 'swim' technique. He said that's how he started hurdling and it was too hard to 'fix'. I don't know if he actually lost any time with the extra motion (sure looked that way), but It also gave me shudders like Ms. Rojas and Mr. Clement. My formal coaching education made me a biomechanics devotee and anything that looks wrong, probably is . . . Note Bene - the Fosbury Flop looked so right to me in 1968, I immediately switched to it. Same with fiberglass vaulting, not that I mastered it as a HSer (I did as a coach/masters athlete, 25 years later).

My less-formal coaching education taught me that if you "fix" one thing you might break something else. Dance with the one wut brung ya.

[Atticus]

My less-formal coaching education taught me that if you "fix" one thing you might break something else. Dance with the one wut brung ya.

Depends on where they are in the learning curve and what the problem is. Now that Rojas has declared her intent to add LJ Gold to her collection, that ship has probably sailed for this season. If she's as good as we suspect (well over 7m) and wins in Budapest, I'd come back to fixing TJ. That said, continue TJ phase drills with her and leave her alone on meet day. Clement HAD to change! Merritt did not.

You'd think HS would be the perfect place to effect normative fixes, but I have received sophs whose errors were so grievous, and the athletes so unwilling to change, that I just let them be. I got a boy PVer that had jumped 12 as a freshman elsewhere, but wouldn't keep his lower arm firm, plus he yanked down on the top arm. I tried all soph year to no avail. He never improved his PR.

I have never 'ruined' an athlete by improving technique. Some do not improve as much as they 'should' have. Most did.

[Awsi Dooger]

I cannot bear to watch that 6 foot 4 inch lady jumping despite her WRs.

I'm glad somebody else said it. I find her borderline unwatchable. In fact, I now fast forward throughout almost every attempt. But until this thread I thought it would come across poorly to say it.

[gm]

Some realllllly odd ducks here...