2023 USA 'Pro' Results

[Atticus]

Sub 4 is still a fine time and leave it at that.

So are 10.10, 20.20, 45.20, etc..

[Trickstat]

Sub 4 is still a fine time and leave it at that.

It's still a time 99% of the male population have no hope of ever running. While it's no longer truly elite internationally, it's still a notable benchmark on the way to the top just like there are in other events. The difference being that it is one that is recognised by more people than a 50 second 400H, a 7' HJ, 20m SP or 2 minute women's 800.

[Conor Dary]

It's still a time 99% of the male population have no hope of ever running. While it's no longer truly elite internationally, it's still a notable benchmark on the way to the top just like there are in other events. The difference being that it is one that is recognised by more people than a 50 second 400H, a 7' HJ, 20m SP or 2 minute women's 800.

Quite right. Nothing like it....

But more like 99.999999%

[Conor Dary]

So are 10.10, 20.20, 45.20, etc..

Who cares.....zzzzz

[DET59]

Quite right. Nothing like it....

But more like 99.999999%

Agree, but what is second place in the minds of casual, once every 4 years fans? Is there a time, metric measure, or something in feet that is second to the 4 minute mile? At some point in not so far future it might be the 2 hour marathon, until then I'm stumped. Nothing like the 4 minute mile.

[Conor Dary]

Agree, but what is second place in the minds of casual, once every 4 years fans? Is there a time, metric measure, or something in feet that is second to the 4 minute mile? At some point in not so far future it might be the 2 hour marathon, until then I'm stumped. Nothing like the 4 minute mile.

Nothing even remotely close....now or ever.

[gh]

how about we don't hijack a meaningful thread for the 4000th sub-4:00 debate?

[Atticus]

Tonight (late ET!) is The TEN in California, where MOST of the fastest American 10K times will be run - for the year!

It is PPV.

Results here: https://finishedresults.trackscorebo...s/11275/events

More info: https://tracklnd.com/meet/theten

here is a smattering of names entered

Men sub-27:30
Kincaid
Dever
Klecker
Mantz
Atkin
E Bor
Ito
Tazawa
Chelanga

Women sub-31:30
Rogers
Monson
Scott
Galvin
Shanahan
McColgan

[proofs in the pudd'in]

how about we don't hijack a meaningful thread for the 4000th sub-4:00 debate?

"Hijack" seems a bit harsh! Not everyone is as aware as the Administrator and his annoyance of all the threads on a particular subject. I don't think I even once commented on one of them. I simply responded to the recent list posted by someone of all the sub-4's. Is there an official non-hijack sub-4 thread?

[cigar95]

Also in the meet with "The Ten" are races 800-5000, and the top of the Newbury Park squad are entered, including Leo Young running with the big boys in the 1500. Aaron Sahlman, Colin's little brother and the national XC champion recently, is in the prep 800, where he ran sub-1:49 last year. (Different meet, same distance for the 1:48+.)

I'm figuring SteveU will keep an eye on them and post in the HS thread.

Edit - oh wait, this is an indoor thread. Do we not yet have a US outdoor thread yet?

[Atticus]

Edit - oh wait, this is an indoor thread.

Not no mo'.

[gm]

Woody Kincaid and Joe Klecker had a pretty good tussle over 10,000 tonight, with Kincaid winning in 27:06.37 (No. 5 all-time US performer) and Klecker 27:07.57 (No. 8).

[gm]

Alicia Monson loses to McColgan but gets the AR! 30:03.82, almost 10 seconds off the existing record

McColgan set a British NR of 30:00.86

Elly Henes to No. 6 US performer at 30:48.26, Natosha Rogers to No. 7 at 30:48.69.

[El Toro]

"Hijack" seems a bit harsh! Not everyone is as aware as the Administrator and his annoyance of all the threads on a particular subject. I don't think I even once commented on one of them. I simply responded to the recent list posted by someone of all the sub-4's. Is there an official non-hijack sub-4 thread?

There's at least one thread questioning the value of sub-4 as a quality measure but most arguments arise in result threads, like this one! There is a reason gh is pissed off with it and it is a hijack.

https://forum.trackandfieldnews.com/forum/current-events/56481-the-elite-sic-sub-4-club

[Trickstat]

McColgan set a British NR of 30:00.86

Wow! That's Paula Radcliffe's record from the 2002 Europeans that was 2nd on the all-time list at the time.