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    Have there been any changes to qualifying for NCAA nationals since last year? I saw a story that said top 8 qualify out of regionals, but it was a student newspaper, and student journalists are pretty prone to mistakes.

    I scoured the NCAA website and found nothing.
    "Run fast and keep turning left."

  • #2
    No changes.

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    • #3
      Re: This year's NCAA qualifying?

      Originally posted by trackstar
      Have there been any changes to qualifying for NCAA nationals since last year? I saw a story that said top 8 qualify out of regionals, but it was a student newspaper, and student journalists are pretty prone to mistakes.

      I scoured the NCAA website and found nothing.
      Is it ON the web? Trackshark had something about it last year, but I can't remember how many names were added from the Descending Order Lists and there was some aborted mess with medical waivers. Where IS the Gospel?

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      • #4
        In the issue that's in the mail

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        • #5
          Originally posted by gh
          In the issue that's in the mail
          excellent - but I take that as a 'no', the criteria are NOT on the web? That's seems rather odd.

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          • #6
            Well, there is definitely no 2006 d1 championship handbook on the web, but if there have been no changes, then I suppose the 2005 version suffices. I found that here: http://www.ncaa.org/library/handbooks/t ... ndbook.pdf
            "Run fast and keep turning left."

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            • #7
              Originally posted by trackstar
              Well, there is definitely no 2006 d1 championship handbook on the web, but if there have been no changes, then I suppose the 2005 version suffices. I found that here: http://www.ncaa.org/library/handbooks/t ... ndbook.pdf
              so it's basically this:

              1. Finish in the top five in an individual event or top three in a relay at the regional qualifying meets; or
              2. Earn an at-large selection.

              At-large Selections. After the automatic qualifiers (top five declared athletes in individual events, top three declared relays based upon regional performance) have been identified, the committee will place the next three declared athletes/ relay teams (plus ties based on place) in each event based upon regional performance into the national at-large pool. The at-large pool athletes are then listed in order of their best performance of the year, including any best marks established at the regional meet.

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              • #8
                At-Large Selections. The track and field committee, with approval from the Division I
                Championships and Competition Cabinet, has adopted a process for selecting at-large
                berths into the national championship meet. After the automatic qualifiers (top five
                declared athletes in individual events, top three declared relays based upon regional
                performance) have been identified, the committee will place the next seven declared
                athletes/relay teams (plus ties based on place) in each event, based upon regional
                performance, into the national at-large pool. The determination of at-large pool members
                not competing in the final of an event will be based on the tie-breaking rule for
                advancement 5-11.8 (performance time to the thousandth in running events or next best
                effort in a field event.) Actual ties in the high jump and pole vault will increase the at-large
                pool.
                The at-large pool athletes are then listed in order of their best performance of the year,
                including any marks established at the regional meet. The committee will fill the field in
                each event by starting at the top of the at-large pool until the cap of 544 athletes per gender
                is reached.
                All individuals and relay teams not declared for contested events at the regional meets are
                not eligible to be selected as at-large entrants into the national championship meet.

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                • #9
                  It's basically the top 5 in each event, then the next 7 placers are considered based on their best performance of the year.

                  It screws over the pole vaulters if the wind should change direction in the middle of the competition leaving them with a screaming headwind and an inability to turn the pits around and the ones who are coming in at higher heights NH. Just look at the Men's W Regional last year.

                  Edited to reflect the changes posted below.

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                  • #10
                    There is a change:

                    At-large Selections. NEW FOR 2006. The track and field committee, with
                    approval from the Division I Championships and Competition Cabinet, has
                    adopted a new process for selecting at-large berths into the national
                    championship meet. After the automatic qualifiers (top five declared
                    athletes in individual events, top three declared relays based upon
                    regional performance) have been identified, the committee will place the
                    next seven declared athletes/relay teams (plus ties based on place) in
                    each event based upon regional performance into the national at-large
                    pool. Previously, only the next three declared athletes/relay teams in
                    each regional event advanced to the at-large pool.

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                    • #11
                      Duck, where did you find that info?
                      "Run fast and keep turning left."

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by duck
                        the committee will place the next seven declared athletes/relay teams (plus ties based on place) in each event based upon regional performance into the national at-large pool. Previously, only the next three declared athletes/relay teams in each regional event advanced to the at-large pool.
                        OK, now I'm reconfused. We've got two categories of at-large bids.

                        a. marks made at the Region meet
                        b. marks made anytime during the season.

                        is it a. or b. or some mixture?

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                        • #13
                          as i understand what I read, the top 5 or 3 relays go. then the next 7 in each event (7 x 4 regions= 28 per event) go on a descending order list. So in an 8 person final 6, 7, 8 and then the best 4 non final qualifiers will have their season's best put on a list, and the season's best can include a regional performance if that indeed is the season's best.

                          they will fill the fields from that list.

                          Therefore there is still value to putting up a fast mark during the regular season.

                          that is my take.

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                          • #14
                            Here's how I read it:

                            1) Top 5 declared individuals / 3 relays go auto

                            2) Next 3 declared individuals/relays (based on place in regional meet) from each region are put into a pool

                            3) Pool from (2) is put into order based on yearly performance (including regional meet, if applicable).

                            4) We then get this:

                            The committee
                            will fill the field in each event by starting at the top of the at-large pool until the
                            cap of 544 athletes per gender is reached.
                            and this:

                            If the numbers of allowable student-athletes established by the
                            Championships/Competition Cabinet have not been reached after automatic
                            qualifiers and minimum field sizes have been accommodated, the committee
                            will add athletes to the meet by adding equally to all events (including relays)
                            for as long as the number of available athletes spaces will allow. At this step,
                            if two or more athletes are tied for the next qualifying performance, all such
                            athletes will be added to the field as long as the number of spaces available is
                            sufficient.
                            This means that if the minimum number of athletes/relays to fill the fields (20 individuals/12 relays) does not get us to 544 per gender (which it clearly won't), all events are given an equal number of new slots until adding one per event would take the total over 544.

                            When the number of spaces available is less than the number of events, thus
                            not allowing for an additional athlete to be added to all events, the committee
                            will determine which events will receive an additional entry. Consideration is given to such factors as strength and depth of field, number of athletes
                            competing in more than one event, number of automatic qualifiers and
                            comparison to the fields in previous years.
                            Now the committee will look at strengh of field and other more subjective factors.

                            Once the max number of athletes are chosen, you get this:

                            Once the maximum number of 544 men or women in the competitive field is
                            attained, the committee will add, on an event-by-event basis, the next person
                            on the descending order list only if that individual is already in the meet in
                            another event (not to include relay alternates), provided such addition does
                            not require adding another heat/flight or does not compromise the safety of
                            the event. At this step, in the event of a tie for such a position, only student athletes already in the meet in another event will be added to the field (subject
                            to the aforementioned limits).
                            If you're already in the meet in another event and ranked directly after or tied with the last person selected, you're in, barring any logistic/safety issue.

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                            • #15
                              Didn't paste as much as I should've. From NCAA to coaches:

                              At-large Selections. NEW FOR 2006. The track and field committee, with
                              approval from the Division I Championships and Competition Cabinet, has
                              adopted a new process for selecting at-large berths into the national
                              championship meet. After the automatic qualifiers (top five declared
                              athletes in individual events, top three declared relays based upon
                              regional performance) have been identified, the committee will place the
                              next seven declared athletes/relay teams (plus ties based on place) in
                              each event based upon regional performance into the national at-large
                              pool. Previously, only the next three declared athletes/relay teams in
                              each regional event advanced to the at-large pool.

                              The at-large pool athletes are then listed in order of their best
                              performance of the year, including any best marks established at the
                              regional meet. The committee will fill the field in each event by
                              starting at the top of the at-large pool until the cap of 544 athletes
                              per gender is reached.

                              If the numbers of allowable student-athletes established by the
                              Championships/Competition Cabinet have not been reached after automatic
                              qualifiers and minimum field sizes have been accommodated, the committee
                              will add athletes to the meet by adding equally to all events (including
                              relays) for as long as the number of available athletes spaces will
                              allow. At this step, if two or more athletes are tied for the next
                              qualifying performance, all such athletes will be added to the field as
                              long as the number of spaces available is sufficient.

                              Each event will be filled to the following minimums:

                              Minimum Field Sizes

                              Event

                              Men

                              Women

                              100-Meter Dash

                              20

                              20

                              200-Meter Dash

                              20

                              20

                              400-Meter Dash

                              20

                              20

                              800-Meter Run

                              20

                              20

                              1,500-Meter Run

                              20

                              20

                              3,000-Meter Steeplechase

                              20

                              20

                              5,000-Meter Run

                              20

                              20

                              10,000-Meter Run

                              20

                              20

                              100-Meter Hurdles

                              20

                              110-Meter Hurdles

                              20

                              400-Meter Hurdles

                              20

                              20

                              400-Meter Relay

                              12

                              12

                              1,600-Meter Relay

                              12

                              12

                              High Jump

                              20

                              20

                              Pole Vault

                              20

                              20

                              Long Jump

                              20

                              20

                              Triple Jump

                              20

                              20

                              Shot Put

                              20

                              20

                              Discus

                              20

                              20

                              Javelin

                              20

                              20

                              Hammer

                              20

                              20

                              Decathlon

                              20

                              Heptathlon

                              20

                              When the number of spaces available is less than the number of events,
                              thus not allowing for an additional athlete to be added to all events,
                              the committee will determine which events will receive an additional
                              entry. Consideration is given to such factors as strength and depth of
                              field, number of athletes competing in more than one event, number of
                              automatic qualifiers and comparison to the fields in previous years.

                              Once the maximum number of 544 men or women in the competitive field is
                              attained, the committee will add, on an event-by-event basis, the next
                              person on the descending order list only if that individual is already
                              in the meet in another event (not to include relay alternates), provided
                              such addition does not require adding another heat/flight or does not
                              compromise the safety of the event. At this step, in the event of a tie
                              for such a position, only student-athletes already in the meet in
                              another event will be added to the field (subject to the aforementioned
                              limits).

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