Ato skeptical on new 100m World Record

[jammin]

I agree with him too

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Ato
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643 Posts Posted - May 13 2006 : 11:49:06 PM
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5. In this event, there is a list called DOUBTFUL TIMING and LIKELY WIND ASSISTED. Everyone was convinced those races were legit, too. Ask Ezinwa about that collegiate 100m "record" at Azusa Pacific and he'll say he has it. HE doesn't. Something will either prove or disprove these times.

So, to conclude, I have thoughts which can be made in support of either side. From what I have heard from people who were there, and what I know about my event, sorry, I am not buying it. Gatlin is not ready yet to run that fast, IMO, and the Nigerian is nowhere in that kind of form, class or shape. Wind gauge, would be my bet.

[SQUACKEE]

Did the wind gauge malfunction or was it rigged?

[SQUACKEE]

Did one merican question Powell's world record?

[Jon]

When Burns & Brown went sub-10 at the T&T trials last year, Ato was all over it saying how the times were too fast and not legit, etc (at the same time, he conveniently glossed over his blatant flyer at the T&T trials the year before). Sure enough, Brown and Burns had good seasons and the latter recorded many times to back up his sub-10 clocking.

So let's see if Gatlin and Fasuba can back up their times this season. Yes, they look a bit on the quick side, but the rest of the results from that race appear fine, especially keeping in mind the +1.7m/s wind.

[26mi235]

When Burns & Brown went sub-10 at the T&T trials last year, Ato was all over it saying how the times were too fast and not legit, etc (at the same time, he conveniently glossed over his blatant flyer at the T&T trials the year before). Sure enough, Brown and Burns had good seasons and the latter recorded many times to back up his sub-10 clocking.

So let's see if Gatlin and Fasuba can back up their times this season. Yes, they look a bit on the quick side, but the rest of the results from that race appear fine, especially keeping in mind the +1.7m/s wind.

I believe, but do not have the data in front of me, that none of the last three WRs qualify as the fastest "basic" time, which is in the low 9.8s. TM's was the "worst" of these, both being the slowest at 9.79 and having the highest wind 2.0. The AP and JG marks also have big, but not maximum-allowed, wind.

[Coach Rod]

The only observation I have after watching the race(s) on WCSN was that it was tremendously windy and tremendously gusty on the track. Even while the athletes are lining up for the 100 meter final, the announcer is commentating how poor the conditions are for the discus throwers, that it is too windy and gusty for a solid performance.

I would say that we have a suspect wind-gauge, as we have had in the past. Qataris would love a World Record on their soil, they are obsessed with Athletics, thus the purchasing of athletes.

That's my conspiracy theory. 9.76 is legit in terms of timing (actually, they rounded down, a la Texas Relays for Hardee), but the conditions surrounding the race are a bit suspect.

[SQUACKEE]

I admit to knowing nothin about certifying wind gage readings for a world record but is it really that inconsistent. Theres no protocal? What da heck is goin on here?

[skyin' brian]

When Burns & Brown went sub-10 at the T&T trials last year, Ato was all over it saying how the times were too fast and not legit, etc (at the same time, he conveniently glossed over his blatant flyer at the T&T trials the year before). Sure enough, Brown and Burns had good seasons and the latter recorded many times to back up his sub-10 clocking.

So let's see if Gatlin and Fasuba can back up their times this season. Yes, they look a bit on the quick side, but the rest of the results from that race appear fine, especially keeping in mind the +1.7m/s wind.

I believe, but do not have the data in front of me, that none of the last three WRs qualify as the fastest "basic" time, which is in the low 9.8s. TM's was the "worst" of these, both being the slowest at 9.79 and having the highest wind 2.0. The AP and JG marks also have big, but not maximum-allowed, wind.

yeah, does anyone have the "basic" list handy, i always find it interesting, but cant find it at the moment

[Flumpy]

I agree entirely with Ato. My first thought on hearing that Justin had beaten the WR was 'that's dodgy', and when I saw Fasuba's time i was certain. Sometimes you just get a feeling about things and my feeling on this is that it's not quite right.

[gh]

That's my conspiracy theory. 9.76 is legit in terms of timing (actually, they rounded down, a la Texas Relays for Hardee), but the conditions surrounding the race are a bit suspect.

They didn't round Hardee down, and they didn't round Powell down. There is no such thing, at least not if they're reading the photos right.

[Thor]

Did one merican question Powell's world record?

There where no lack of comments about the rounding down from 9.78 to 9.77, though Ato was probably the one who was most vocal about it.

Sure enough, Brown and Burns had good seasons and the latter recorded many times to back up his sub-10 clocking.

A sub-10 clocking is backed up by a sub-10.

[tafnut]

Good lord - has it really come to this?

EVERY STINKIN' GOOD PERFORMANCE IS SUSPECT NOW?!

MJ couldn't have run that time - JG couldn't have run that time - Fasuba couldn't have run that time . . .

I'm all about healthy skepticism when it comes to performances in track, but REALLY do we now have to doubt EVERYTHING? We never landed on the moon - aliens are in Area 57 - black helicopters everywhere.

Is paranoia the fad of the day? I hope so, because that means it will disappear soon . . . I wish . . .

[EPelle]

That's my conspiracy theory. 9.76 is legit in terms of timing (actually, they rounded down, a la Texas Relays for Hardee), but the conditions surrounding the race are a bit suspect.

They didn't round Hardee down, and they didn't round Powell down. There is no such thing, at least not if they're reading the photos right.

With Shawn Crawford (USA) and Francis Obikwelu - the men who beat him in the last 2 years - alongside, Gatlin blasted down the track to stop the clock at 9.77,which was almost as quickly modified (as were all the original times) to 9.76.

http://www.iaaf.org/GP06/news/Kind=2/newsId=34613.html

[gh]

That's apples & oranges. The original time is taken by an eyebeam at track level, and that's not ever used as official timing (well, unless you're Seb Coe). As noted in another thread, the eyebeam times are very frequently 0.01 slower than the actual camera time.

The official time was never anything but 9.76.

[EPelle]

Why not wait with any kind of time until the official time is recorded? Give fans two seconds to anticipate the announcer:s "And the time is three minutes--".