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    Bud Geracie in the San Jose Mercury News: "Nobody was paying attention to the Women's World Cup until the U.S. lost, and now fewer are."

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  • Pego
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    <Because, like in women's hockey, no one else plays. It wouldn't be entertaining to watch Lance Armstrong take on some preschoolers on tricycles, either.>

    What planet do you live on? Nobody else plays women basketball and hockey?

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    >Actually the WUSA suspended operations. They
    >didn't fold completely yet.>>

    Everybody who believes that after yesterday the stake was finally driven through the heart please raise their hands. What do you think the ratings are going to be on that final now, about 0.000000002?

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    >And women CAN play basketball. At
    >least they're more entertaining than our distance
    >runners, & actually bring home some medals.

    Because, like in women's hockey, no one else plays. It wouldn't be entertaining to watch Lance Armstrong take on some preschoolers on tricycles, either.

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    I do know Anschutz put a lot of bucks into the men's side of domestic soccer, but not sure he had anything to do with WUSA.

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  • blacklily
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    I was thinking more about upping the prize money, & attracting more top-level athletes worldwide. The Home Depot prize money must be at least double its current level to do this. Precisely because it's much cheaper to toss money to track & field than to foot a soccer league -- with better bang for the buck -- is USATF making its case with billionaire Anschultz?

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  • dl
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    I think the money required for a full-blown league like the WUSA and the money needed to host a few track meets are not even comparable, especially since the track is already in place. I'd guess the Home Depot meet will definitely be going strong through 2006, the year of the (track) World Cup.

    If you're anywhere near L.A. (or even if you aren't) do what you can to come out to the Home Depot meet, as well as the USATF Champs (2005) and World Cup.

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  • blacklily
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    Now that WUSA has folded, what will USATF do? Wasn't Phil Anschultz (the builder of the new Home Depot track, which will host the 2006 IAAF World Cup) a key WUSA investor? Is USATF capitalizing on this opportunity to encourage him to become an angel investor in our sport?

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  • blacklily
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    >I've always had a problem with basically US-only
    >sports (American football-Super Bowl, Baseball -
    >World[?]Series, NBA) annointing themselves World
    >Champions. In some cases (football) the US is the
    >only country the sport is played in, baseball is
    >actually dominated by Caribean, and the rest of
    >the world has caught up with the US in
    >basketball. Hockey?, that's a sport played by
    >about 1% of the worlds population. These are the
    >sports the US media focuses on.

    I agree that these championships shouldn't refer to themselves as "world championships." However, some facts: American football is NOT only played in the U.S. Canada's roots in the sport go far as far as ours, the sport is also played in Mexico, Japan, & several European countries. E.g., Germany's games regularly attract over 30,000 people. Even Spain gets 11,000+ on average for its U.S. football games, not too paltry for a new sport in a soccer-mad nation. And the quality of American football elsewhere is about 1/3 of the level in the U.S. Does U.S. football touch soccer in world popularity? Not even close! But get the facts right.

    Hockey is a CANADIAN sport (the NHL began there) that crossed over into the U.S., Scandinavia, & Eastern Europe. Not many more countries are skiing proficient, but I'm not harping about that sport. Virtually all the top Caribbean & Asian baseball players are in the U.S. system (same goes for Europeans & Africans in the NBA), so your point?

    Of course, the U.S. media will focus on sports that interest its readers. That's what media worldwide do. Otherwise, they will quickly go out of business! If & when rugby, cricket, cycling, & the like reach similar popularity in the U.S., they will get their due.

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  • blacklily
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    Regarding
    >the WUSA: there was no demand for that league.
    >It made no money (in fact it lost tons of
    >money). That's why it folded. The WNBA would
    >fold too, if it weren't for the charity of David
    >Stern. There is no demand for the WNBA either.

    Why is there no demand for women's soccer
    >r and basketball?

    In the case of soccer, this
    >country just doesn't like the sport (regardless
    >of which sex plays it). In the case of
    >basketball, the quality of the play is terrible
    >because women are not good basketball players.
    >I'm sure I will be pilloried for this, but it's
    >true; women can't play basketball.

    Some of
    >the social-progress types are crying their eyes
    >out right now because of the demise of the WUSA.
    >Frankly, I don't see how maintaining a women's
    >s soccer league makes us a better society. It is
    >just a game, and irrelevant to the larger
    >problems we face.

    Having watched the Women's World Cup match between USA & Sweden on TV last weekend, I see why WUSA folded. Snooze city!!!

    However, there's a double standard here. It took the top professional men's sports DECADES before they reached their current level. The bell curve for women's sports has really only been two decades -- same goes for women as sports consumers -- yet people expect it to happen overnight. WUSA was mismanaged, but even many of the most popular sports have lower tv viewership & revenues.

    And women CAN play basketball. At least they're more entertaining than our distance runners, & actually bring home some medals.

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    Yeah, but they won't be around for the next World Cup.

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  • Vince
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    Actually the WUSA suspended operations. They didn't fold completely yet.

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    Bud Geracie of the San Jose Mercury-News:

    <<Sports Illustrated jinx sets new record: WUSA folds two days before Mia Hamm is on cover>>

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    There is already talk of bringing back the WUSA. They are already looking for corporate sponsors. I say there is a 75% chance the league will be back within the year. In this day and age 20 million dollars really isn't that much money. Some of today's baseball players have a higher net value than the entire WUSA.

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  • Petros
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    >You could have every single American out there running distance and we'd still be no match for the Kenyans and Ethiopans<
    I totally disagree.
    These are good times for women in sports. Fewer of them have been at it, for less time, on any national-type level, which means their "improvement curve" is steeper than the men's right now. We're seeing it not only in track, where feature stories are being generated by the likes of Guevara, Mutola and Radcliffe, but also in tennis (the Williams sisters) and golf. When Annika Sorenstam played in that men's tournament earlier this summer, it was fun to see how many women turned out, and how enthusiastic they were. But will it translate into more women on the courses, or spectating, or posting on message boards? Nah. It's just like that soccer game in the Rose Bowl, in 1999, that basically gave birth to WUSA. The collapse of WUSA may be followed by one step backward, but the league itself was at least one small step forward. Whether there will be more forward steps can't be determined by TV networks or corporate sponsors, rather only if the women themselves genuinely want it.

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