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  • #91
    Re: Can an average man run a 6-minute mile

    jhc68, thanks for the book recommedation, sounds like interesting info.

    I am currently trainig for a marathon. I suspect that i will probably drop 50 lbs. that is my goal anyways. I want to get below 190 lbs.

    After that I am going to try this 6 minute thing, then hopefully sometime early next year I can post what happened!

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    • #92
      Re: Can an average man run a 6-minute mile

      Bigdude... according to Dale Harder's book:
      Jack Fath was the heaviest ever 4-minute miler when he ran 3:59.5 at the 1968 Villanova Relays at wt. 190lbs... and a 75 year old named Scotty Carter clocked a 5:57.2 four-lapper in 1972, so, extrapolating, you surely could work down to 190 and run in the sub-6 time zone!
      And Geoff Capes, the Brit world-class shotputter rumbled to a 4:48 mile mark at 245lbs as a 6'5 3/4" seventeen year old!
      It is a cool book, and maybe the lists are even true (or at least lots of them).

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      • #93
        Re: Can an average man run a 6-minute mile

        wow those times are astounding. thanks for the info. I can't wait to get the book, its got all sorts of lifting and running records. and some, like you mentioned seem pretty fanciful!!!

        >Bigdude... according to Dale Harder's book:
        >
        Jack Fath was the heaviest ever 4-minute miler
        >when he ran 3:59.5 at the 1968 Villanova Relays
        >at wt. 190lbs... and a 75 year old named Scotty
        >Carter clocked a 5:57.2 four-lapper in 1972, so,
        >extrapolating, you surely could work down to 190
        >and run in the sub-6 time zone!
        And Geoff
        >Capes, the Brit world-class shotputter rumbled to
        >a 4:48 mile mark at 245lbs as a 6'5 3/4"
        >seventeen year old!
        It is a cool book, and
        >maybe the lists are even true (or at least lots
        >of them).

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        • #94
          Re: Can an average man run a 6-minute mile

          During the late forties and early fifties High School Varsity qualifying for the mile was 6 minutes. That is according to a elderly gentlemen I know.

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          • #95
            Re: Can an average man run a 6-minute mile

            >I'm just wondering how you guys actually plan on
            >running miles. Gotta be almost impossible to find
            >a track that's not metric, so I suspect that
            >you'll cheat and run 1600s instead!

            Most tracks have a curved line about 9 meters (10 yards) behind the 1600 meter start/finish line. Or pace the 10 yards off yourself (about 12 walking steps). I wouldn't trust an car odometer to get me terribly close to a mile -- it may not be accurate and you've got to eyeball that thing pretty close as it goes past 0 again to get it precise --

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            • #96
              Re: Can an average man run a 6-minute mile

              Digital Odometers are very accurate.

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              • #97
                Re: Can an average man run a 6-minute mile

                I was running a good time on the thread mill when it decided to shut off. I went through the first half in 3:00 flat. Then bingo the thread mill makes a whine and shuts down. I have to unplug the thing to restart. For my sub 6 mile I am going to health quest where the thread mills are more reliable.

                Question:
                In the past when I got down to a 4:50 - 5:10 minute mile I got this awful cough after the race. It would last about 10 hours after the race. It was like having spasms in my chest. Now that I am getting close to sub 6 I am starting to get those coughs again. I still remember coughing after a sub five minute mile twenty years later.

                -Sub Five in 20 months.

                PR 4:49 mile / 4:25 1500m
                Masters 5:38
                Now 6:10

                It is frustration to lose your speed and have to settle for times you would be ashamed of 20 years ago.

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                • #98
                  Re: Can an average man run a 6-minute mile

                  Mr. Who Cares---Take care and see a lung specialist, you may be damaging yourself. As we age more time is needed for recovery. Try to find a running doctor. Good luck in your quest.

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                  • #99
                    Re: Can an average man run a 6-minute mile

                    A doctor once told me that I trying to run too fast without being in condition.

                    It could be a mild case of running induced asthma.

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                    • Re: Can an average man run a 6-minute mile

                      "thread mill"? Isn't that what this board is?

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                      • Re: Can an average man run a 6-minute mile

                        and . . . 100. Are we done now?

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                        • Jinny Beyer

                          "Six-Minute Mile: A Beginning Runner Tells how at Age 40 She Tackled...a Six-Minute Mile...and how You Can Too!"
                          Author: Jinny Beyer
                          ISBN number: 0914440764
                          Date Published: Jan 1984
                          Publisher: EPM Publications, Inc.

                          http://www.jinnybeyer.com/about.cfm?CFI ... 9c4500d036

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                          • Re: Jinny Beyer

                            Jinny seems to be more interested in quilting now. I did not see her running book mentioned on her site.

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                            • Re: Jinny Beyer

                              Click her home page.

                              There's a quilting seminar at Hilton Head, where you can run with Jinny.

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                              • Re: Can an average man run a 6-minute mile

                                Can an average man run a 6-minute mile? I have a friend who did just that. No running background. Rock climbing and dirt biking in his teens and twenties. No great physical speciman. But when he hooked up with a few of us runners from work, he ended up running around 18 minutes for a 5K. Any secrets? Nothing that anyone halfway serious about running wouldn't employ. He trained with people that were better than he was, he had some goals and it took him a few years to transform his body into a leaner, more running friendly one. That and a couple years of training to develop the aerobic capacity needed to handle tougher workouts.

                                The question is this: Does anyone have a story about someone that gave the 6 minute mile a shot and, absent some disability or debilitating circumstance, couldn't do it?

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