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    29.67 - Ato Boldon - Stuttgart 13.07.1997 - (9.90 + 19.77)
    29.72 - Ato Boldon - Athínai 16.06.1999 - (9.86 + 19.86)
    29.74 - Ato Boldon - Athínai 17.06.1998 - (9.86 + 19.88)
    29.77 - Ato Boldon - Stockholm 07.07.1997 - (9.95 + 19.82)
    29.79 - Ato Boldon - Lausanne 03.07.1996 - (19.85 + 9.94)
    29.82 - Maurice Greene - Athínai 16.06.1999 - (20.03 + 9.79)
    29.84 - Shawn Crawford - Pretoria 12.04.2002 - (19.85A + 9.99A)
    29.87 - Maurice Greene - Stockholm 07.07.1997 - (19.86 + 10.01)
    29.90 - John Capel - Boise 05.06.1999 - (10.03 + 19.87)
    29.92 - Ato Boldon - Lausanne 05.07.2000 - (9.95 + 19.97)
    29.93 - Maurice Greene - Stuttgart 13.07.1997 - (19.89 + 10.04)
    29.96 - Calvin Smith - Zürich 24.08.1983 - (19.99 + 9.97)
    29.98 - Francis Obikwelu - Lausanne 05.07.2000 - (9.97 + 20.01)
    29.99 - Maurice Greene - Roma 30.06.2000 - (20.02 + 9.97)
    30.01 - Ato Boldon - Stockholm 08.07.1996 - (19.94 + 10.07)
    30.03 - Ato Boldon - Westwood 19.05.1996 - (20.00 + 10.03)
    30.05 - Calvin Smith - Zürich 17.08.1988 - (9.97 + 20.08)
    30.06 - Carl Lewis - Lausanne 07.07.1993 - (10.07 + 19.99)
    30.06 - Frank Fredericks - Roma 12.07.2002 - (19.99 + 10.07)
    30.07 - Bernard Williams - Bruxelles 24.08.2001 - (20.01 + 10.06)
    30.07 - Bernard Williams - Roma 11.07.2003 - (10.06 + 20.01)
    30.09 - Francis Obikwelu - Athínai 28.06.2000 - (20.08 + 10.01)
    30.10 - Joshua J. Johnson - Abuja 17.05.2003 - (10.05 + 20.05)
    30.13 - Justin Gatlin - Bruxelles 05.09.2003 - (20.04 + 10.09)
    30.14 - Silvio Leonard - Warszawa 19.06.1978 - (20.06 + 10.08)
    30.14 - Jon Drummond - Stockholm 08.07.1996 - (20.05 + 10.09)
    30.15 - Shawn Crawford - Pretoria 04.04.2003 - (10.07A + 20.08A)
    30.16 - Ato Boldon - Tucson 20.05.1995 - (20.08 + 10.08)
    30.16 - Jon Drummond - Bruxelles 28.08.1998 - (20.15 + 10.01)
    30.17 - Calvin Smith - Zürich 19.08.1987 - (10.07 + 20.10)
    30.17 - Olapade Adeniken - Lausanne 08.07.1992 - (10.06 + 20.11)
    30.18 - Francis Obikwelu - Saint-Denis 23.07.2004 - (20.12 + 10.06)
    30.19 - Bryan Bridgewater - Abilene 29.05.1993 - (10.08 + 20.11)
    30.20 - Olapade Adeniken - Austin 06.06.1992 - (10.09 + 20.11)
    30.20 - Obadele Thompson - Linz 08.08.2000 - (20.11 + 10.09)
    30.20 - Coby Miller - Ciudad de México 03.05.2003 - (20.13A + 10.07A)
    30.21 - Maurice Greene - Malmö 02.08.1999 - (20.16 + 10.05)
    30.23 - Francis Obikwelu - Bruxelles 30.08.2002 - (10.01 + 20.22)
    30.23 - John Capel - Rethimnó 06.07.2003 - (20.21 + 10.02)
    30.24 - Coby Miller - Tempe 10.04.1999 - (10.03 + 20.21)
    30.25 - James Sanford - Westwood 10.05.1981 - (10.05 + 20.20)
    30.25 - Bruny Surin - Bruxelles 03.09.1999 - (10.04 + 20.21)
    30.25 - Bernard Williams - Athínai 10.06.2002 - (20.19 + 10.06)
    30.26 - Coby Miller - Durham 02.06.2000 - (9.98 + 20.28)
    30.26 - Ato Boldon - Oslo 28.07.2000 - (20.26 + 10.00)
    30.27 - Coby Miller - Tempe 15.04.2000 - (20.22 + 10.05)
    30.28 - Obadele Thompson - Zürich 11.08.1999 - (10.02 + 20.26)
    30.28 - Ato Boldon - Bruxelles 24.08.2001 - (10.04 + 20.24)
    30.28 - Deji Aliu - Athínai 10.06.2002 - (20.25 + 10.03)
    30.29 - Daniel Effiong - Bratislava 01.06.1994 - (10.08 + 20.21)
    30.29 - Percival Spencer - San Diego 23.05.1997 - (20.21 + 10.08)
    30.30 - Bernard Williams - Durham 02.06.2000 - (20.31 + 9.99)


    Off the 52 legal 30.30-combo or better Ato Bolden has 11 of them!
    Best of the others are
    Maurice Greene 5
    Copy Miller 4
    Francis Obikwelu 4
    Bernard Williams 4
    Calvin Smith 3


    at least one time wind-assisted
    29.55 - Leroy Burrell - College Station 19.05.1990 - (19.61w + 9.94w)
    29.67 - Maurice Greene - Eugene 31.05.1998 - (9.79w + 19.88w)
    29.83 - Roy Martin - Houston 18.05.1986 - (19.86w + 9.97w)
    29.86 - Steve Mullings - Fort Worth 17.04.2004 - (9.96w + 19.90w)
    29.89 - Bobby Cruse - Knoxville 09.04.1999 - (10.06w + 19.83w)
    29.90 - Frank Fredericks - Villeneuve d'Ascq 06.07.1992 - (9.91w + 19.99w)
    29.90 - Maurice Greene - Eugene 30.05.1999 - (20.06w + 9.84w)
    29.91 - Leonard Scott - Knoxville 09.04.1999 - (9.83w + 20.08w)
    29.93 - Frank Fredericks - Eugene 01.06.1991 - (10.03w + 19.90w)
    29.97 - Chris Nelloms - Minneapolis 23.05.1992 - (10.03w + 19.94w)
    29.99 - Olapade Adeniken - Air Force Academy 23.05.1992 - (9.99Aw + 20.00Aw)
    30.01 - Carl Lewis - San Jose 26.05.1984 - (10.00w + 20.01w)
    30.04 - Mike Roberson - Austin 05.06.1980 - (10.09w + 19.95w)
    30.05 - Alvis Whitted - College Park 20.04.1996 - (20.03w + 10.02w)
    30.05 - Coby Miller - Auburn 01.04.2000 - (20.17 + 9.88w)
    30.09 - Churandy Martina - El Paso 13.05.2006 - (9.76Aw + 20.33A)
    30.10 - Carl Lewis - Eugene 17.06.1993 - (20.20 + 9.90w)
    30.10 - Tyson Gay - Austin 10.06.2004 - (10.01w + 20.09)
    30.11 - Lorenzo Daniel - Knoxville 18.05.1986 - (20.11w + 10.00w)
    30.12 - Erick Wilson - Levelland 10.05.2003 - (9.93w + 20.19w)
    30.14 - James Sanford - Westwood 03.05.1980 - (9.88w + 20.26)
    30.14 - Olapade Adeniken - Eugene 01.06.1991 - (20.09w + 10.05w)
    30.14 - Kenny Brokenburr - Knoxville 09.04.1999 - (20.24w + 9.90w)
    30.15 - Linford Christie - Lausanne 05.07.1995 - (10.03w + 20.12w)
    30.15 - Leonard Myles-Mills - Fort Collins 22.05.1999 - (20.11Aw + 10.04Aw)
    30.16 - Frank Fredericks - Albuquerque 20.05.1989 - (10.07Aw + 20.09Aw)
    30.18 - Tyson Gay - Baton Rouge 29.05.2004 - (10.02w + 20.16w)
    30.19 - Carl Lewis - San Jose 28.05.1983 - (10.03w + 20.16)
    30.19 - Andre Cason - College Station 19.05.1990 - (20.11w + 10.08w)
    30.19 - Justin Gatlin - Eugene 02.06.2001 - (20.11w + 10.08)
    30.20 - Calvin Smith - Villeneuve d'Ascq 27.06.1988 - (20.17 + 10.03w)
    30.20 - Frank Fredericks - Eugene 31.05.1991 - (20.13 + 10.07w)
    30.20 - Kim Collins - Arlington 06.05.2000 - (20.18w + 10.02w)
    30.20 - Kenny Brokenburr - Eugene 24.06.2000 - (10.08 + 20.12w)
    30.21 - James Sanford - Austin 05.06.1980 - (10.00w + 20.21w)
    30.21 - Mark Witherspoon - Austin 09.05.1992 - (10.08w + 20.13)
    30.21 - Olapade Adeniken - Air Force Academy 22.05.1992 - (20.18Aw + 10.03Aw)
    30.21 - Daniel Effiong - Austin 08.05.1993 - (20.24 + 9.97w)
    30.21 - Ato Boldon - Bruxelles 25.08.2000 - (20.19 + 10.02w)
    30.23 - Obadele Thompson - Eugene 31.05.1998 - (20.17w + 10.06w)
    30.24 - Churandy Martina - El Paso 16.04.2005 - (9.93Aw + 20.31Aw)
    30.25 - Linford Christie - Edinburgh 02.07.1993 - (20.19w + 10.06)
    30.27 - Olapade Adeniken - Albuquerque 20.05.1989 - (20.22Aw + 10.05Aw)
    30.28 - Carl Lewis - San Jose 25.06.1987 - (20.22 + 10.06w)
    30.28 - David Oaks - Lawrence 21.05.1994 - (10.04w + 20.24w)
    30.28 - Brendan Christian - College Station 29.05.2004 - (20.19w + 10.09w)
    30.29 - Brian Cooper - College Station 11.04.1987 - (10.08w + 20.21w)

    doubtful timing
    29.87 - Marquis Davis - Jonesboro 06.05.2000 - (9.98w + 19.89w)
    suspended under IAAF rules
    30.06 - Justin Gatlin - Knoxville 12.04.2002 - (20.06 + 10.00)

  • #2
    almost forgot the women

    32.59 - Merlene Ottey - Zürich 15.08.1990 (10.93 + 21.66)
    32.67 - Merlene Ottey - Monaco 07.08.1993 (10.90 + 21.77)
    32.73 - Marion Jones - Zürich 13.08.1997 (10.97 + 21.76)
    32.78 - Gwen Torrence - Bruxelles 03.09.1993 (10.86 + 21.92)
    32.89 - Merlene Ottey - Bruxelles 28.08.1992 (10.89 + 22.00)
    32.91 - Evelyn Ashford - Bruxelles 28.08.1981 (11.07 + 21.84)
    32.92 - Evelyn Ashford - Zürich 13.08.1986 (10.95 + 21.97)
    32.92 - Irina Privalova - Stockholm 12.07.1994 (10.90 + 22.02)
    32.95 - Merlene Ottey - Berlin 04.07.1990 (11.01 + 21.94)
    32.99 - Valerie Brisco - Zürich 21.08.1985 (11.01 + 21.98)
    32.99 - Irina Privalova - Villeneuve d'Ascq 02.07.1993 (11.00 + 21.99)
    32.99 - Merlene Ottey - Lausanne 05.07.1995 (10.92 + 22.07)
    32.99 - Marion Jones - Bruxelles 30.08.2002 (10.88 + 22.11)
    33.02 - Irina Privalova - Bruxelles 28.08.1992 (10.95 + 22.07)
    33.02 - Irina Privalova - Bruxelles 03.09.1993 (10.94 + 22.08)
    33.03 - Irina Privalova - Zürich 19.08.1992 (11.01 + 22.02)
    33.04 - Gwen Torrence - Zürich 19.08.1992 (10.94 + 22.10)
    33.04 - Merlene Ottey - Bellinzona 12.07.1996 (10.95 + 22.09)
    33.06 - Jarmila Kratochvílová - Bratislava 06.06.1981 (11.09 + 21.97)
    33.09 - Merlene Ottey - Los Angeles 08.06.1985 (10.93 + 22.16)
    33.09 - Merlene Ottey - Walnut 31.05.1987 (10.87 + 22.22)
    33.13 - Merlene Ottey - Zürich 19.08.1992 (11.01 + 22.12)
    33.14 - Zhanna Block - Bruxelles 30.08.2002 (10.90 + 22.24)
    33.16 - Inger Miller - Athínai 16.06.1999 (11.06 + 22.10)
    33.18 - Merlene Ottey - Villeneuve d'Ascq 25.06.1989 (10.95 + 22.23)
    33.18 - Merlene Ottey - Sestriere 31.07.1991 (11.03A + 22.15A)
    33.19 - Evette de Klerk - Pretoria 29.04.1989 (11.09A + 22.10A)
    33.23 - Irina Privalova - Lausanne 07.07.1993 (11.06 + 22.17)
    33.24 - Merlene Ottey - Bruxelles 25.08.1989 (11.03 + 22.21)
    33.24 - Kim Gevaert - Bruxelles 09.07.2006 (11.04 + 22.20)
    33.27 - Evelyn Ashford - Zürich 15.08.1979 (11.00 + 22.27)
    33.28 - Angela Issajenko - Colorado Springs 20.07.1982 (11.03A + 22.25A)
    33.29 - Merlene Ottey - Saint-Denis 22.06.1990 (11.08 + 22.21)
    33.29 - Irina Privalova - Bruxelles 19.08.1994 (11.07 + 22.22)

    Merlene Ottey has 13 of 34 best combos
    Irirna Privalova 7

    at least one time wind-assisted
    32.59 - Irina Privalova - Lausanne 06.07.1994 (10.77 + 21.82w)
    32.69 - Irina Privalova - Rieti 05.09.1993 (10.81w + 21.88)
    32.80 - Irina Privalova - Rieti 06.09.1992 (10.81w + 21.99)
    33.05 - Evette de Klerk - Pietersburg 08.04.1989 (10.99Aw + 22.06A)
    33.11 - Juliet Cuthbert - Austin 09.05.1992 (10.89w + 22.22w)
    33.18 - Merlene Ottey - Zürich 24.08.1983 (10.98w + 22.20)
    33.20 - Melinda Gainsford-Taylor - Pietersburg 18.03.2000 (11.02Aw + 22.18Aw)
    33.22 - Muna Lee - Baton Rouge 29.05.2004 (11.00w + 22.22w)
    33.23 - Florence Griffith-Joyner - Zürich 24.08.1983 (10.96w + 22.27)
    33.23 - Irina Privalova - Rieti 28.08.1994 (11.02w + 22.21)
    33.27 - Valerie Brisco - Walnut 03.06.1984 (11.02w + 22.25w)
    33.28 - Carol Rodriguez - Provo 26.05.2006 (11.05Aw + 22.23A)
    33.30 - LaTasha Jenkins - Boise 04.06.1999 (11.08 + 22.22w)

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    • #3
      Brilliant as always, pela.

      Remember Smith's in Zurich 83 well, the first ever. Ron Brown and Emmit King both PBd behind him (10.06?). Wasn't that also Smith's first sea-level sub-10?

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Jay Peterman
        Brilliant as always, pela.

        Remember Smith's in Zurich 83 well, the first ever. Ron Brown and Emmit King both PBd behind him (10.06?). Wasn't that also Smith's first sea-level sub-10?
        Yes, that was Smith's first seav-level sub-10.

        Lattany had 10.03 and Brown & King had 10.06 in the same race. (PB for all)

        I can have missed some combos where it was a very good time in one race and a not so good time in the second race. Hopefully if they exists someone out there can help me with it.

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        • #5
          Thanks again pela.

          Your list has Lattany running a 10.06 (w+2.0m/s) in London in 81. I was there (althiugh I thought it was after 81 to be honest, but I'll never doubt you!), and it was a filthy night - lashing down with rain, cold, and the wind swirling all over the place, but it was then the fastest ever 100 in the UK.

          Wind or not - and it was swirling - I'd rate that run as intrinsically better than the Zurich one.

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          • #6
            lattany held the low-altitude auto best at one time with 9.96 back in '83 - never forget that

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            • #7
              Originally posted by eldrick
              lattany held the low-altitude auto best at one time with 9.96 back in '83 - never forget that
              I hadn't! He deserved a major medal (World Cup notwithstanding), and was unlucky to be peaking just as Lewis came on the scene.

              He's my choice in the 100 for "best-without-olympic-gold".

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              • #8
                Originally posted by eldrick
                lattany held the low-altitude auto best at one time with 9.96 back in '83 - never forget that
                There's a difference between sea-level and non=(A). His was at 202m. Many statisticians suspect there's something wrong with that time. Since we had assurances at the time that the wind reading was OK, we've always guessed that it being in a small college meet he got a flyer.

                Note that his best outside that meet was a 10.03 at a notorious fast-start place, Zürich the year before. His best outside the 10.03 was a 10.13. In '84, the year he got the 9.96 (and didn't even make the World Rankings) here's his sequence of legal times:
                10.27
                10.35
                10.28
                10.19 (at the 9.96 site)
                10.24
                10.33
                9.96
                10.18
                10.35
                10.43
                10.58
                10.56
                10.30
                10.55
                10.47
                10.51

                The 9.96 is as anomalous as anything we saw in Lausanne, methinks, in the context of his year.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by gh
                  Originally posted by eldrick
                  lattany held the low-altitude auto best at one time with 9.96 back in '83 - never forget that
                  There's a difference between sea-level and non=(A). His was at 202m. Many statisticians suspect there's something wrong with that time. Since we had assurances at the time that the wind reading was OK, we've always guessed that it being in a small college meet he got a flyer.

                  Note that his best outside that meet was a 10.03 at a notorious fast-start place, Zürich the year before. His best outside the 10.03 was a 10.13. In '84, the year he got the 9.96 (and didn't even make the World Rankings) here's his sequence of legal times:
                  10.27
                  10.35
                  10.28
                  10.19 (at the 9.96 site)
                  10.24
                  10.33
                  9.96
                  10.18
                  10.35
                  10.43
                  10.58
                  10.56
                  10.30
                  10.55
                  10.47
                  10.51

                  The 9.96 is as anomalous as anything we saw in Lausanne, methinks, in the context of his year.
                  Disagree. No stats to hand, but I believe he ran 10.09 as a junior. And his 10.06 in London was very, very real. I'll leave it to others to interpret that race, but IMHO that was worth sub-10.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Jay Peterman
                    Disagree. No stats to hand, but I believe he ran 10.09 as a junior. And his 10.06 in London was very, very real. I'll leave it to others to interpret that race, but IMHO that was worth sub-10.
                    http://www.iaaf.org/statistics/toplists ... index.html

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Jay Peterman
                      Disagree. No stats to hand, but I believe he ran 10.09 as a junior. And his 10.06 in London was very, very real. I'll leave it to others to interpret that race, but IMHO that was worth sub-10.
                      You're free to so analyze, and if the "feeling" is there for it to be worth sub-10, allow me the liberty to analyze the 9.96 and get the "feeling" that it's worth a supra-10!

                      There's no end of Junior sprinters who should have done bigger things but didn't. All I'm asking is to look at the 9.96 year in its totality and tell me you don't think there's something just way wack about that mark.

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                      • #12
                        Mel Lattany

                        1978 - 10.09
                        1981 - 10.04, 10.06, 10.06, 10.06w, 10.07, 10.08w, 10.09
                        1983 - 9.95w, 9.99w, 10.03
                        1984 - 9.96, 10.01w


                        Olympic cycle 1981-1984 there were 41 legal sub 10.10 performances by 11 athletes and Mel Lattany had 8 of them.


                        Google is your friend!


                        The Observer said

                        The Moscow Games were marred by a boycott, led by the United States in protest at the Soviet Union's invasion of Afghanistan, with 65 countries staying away. This meant that two of Wells's main rivals for the 100m title were absent: Americans Mel Lattany and Stanley Floyd, who was unbeaten for 18 months and the fastest man that year....

                        ....Even so, a fortnight after the end of the Moscow Olympics, Wells lined up against Lattany and Floyd at a meeting in Koblenz, West Germany. 'I was putting my neck in a noose, I know that, but I had to take on the Americans,' he says. 'They were fresh and wanted my scalp to prove that they would have won in Moscow. And I was shattered from the Olympics. I only made the final that night in Koblenz as the slowest qualifier. Before the final, I lay on a bench and was so drained that it felt as if the bench was moving. Yet I still beat them. Somebody was definitely watching over me that day. Mel Lattany came up to me afterwards and said, "Fantastic, Allan; I've been trying to beat Stanley Floyd for the last 18 months. I'm delighted for you. Even if we were in Moscow you would've won".'
                        New York Times said

                        Published: January 15, 1982

                        Two American sprinters, Mel Lattany and Mark Kent, were injured slightly in Melbourne, Australia, when banner-waving demonstrators interrupted the 200-meter final of the Alcoa Challenge track and field meet.

                        Competition organizers said the group was protesting alleged abuse of aboriginal land rights at Alcoa's proposed aluminum smelter site near Portland, Victoria. The runners were at the 60-yard mark when the demonstrators blocked their paths with a banner containing the words ''Land Rights.'' Kent suffered an injured thigh when one of the protesters appeared to have kneed him. Lattany said he pulled his back slightly, trying to avoid the demonstrators.
                        Masterstrack.com said

                        In 1983, after placing sixth in the final in Zurich, Mel Lattany and Ron Brown both were injured in the race.
                        The New York Times said

                        Mel Lattany is critical of the selection process that kept him off the United States team that will compete in the world track and field championships next month in Helsinki, Finland. ''Everything is won and lost at the U.S. championships,'' said the 23-year-old Lattany, who lost his shoe during the 100-meter dash in the championships last month and failed to reach the final in that event or in the 200 meters. July 15, 1983
                        Conway said

                        Used to be that the US had both a national championships AND Olympic trials in Olympic years ... Athletes used to use the Nationals as either a tune up or skip it altogether to focus on the Trials ... In 84 both Lattany and Smith attended Nationals - I was there ... Both suffered hamstring injuries - Lattany's major, Smith's less so ... As a result Lattany had no shot at the games ..
                        1985 Paris World Indoor Championships

                        In his 60m heat Mel Lattany (USA), a 6.52 performer and one of the favorites, was distracted at the start and trailed in a non-qualifying fourth in
                        6.87 ...
                        The New York Times said

                        The Dallas Cowboys, hungry for help at wide receiver, have signed world-class sprinter Mel Lattany to a contract.

                        Lattany, 25, who graduated from Georgia in 1981 and holds the world's third-fastest time in the 100-meter dash, hasn't played football since high school. He is 5 feet 10 inches tall and weighs 180 pounds and was clocked by the Cowboys at 4.36 seconds over 40 yards. June 21st 1985
                        The New York Times said

                        The International Amateur Athletics Federation, the world governing body of track and field, voted today to reinstate three former pro football players, Stanley Floyd, Mel Lattany and Mark McNeil, all of them sprinters. March 30th 1987

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                        • #13
                          That is an excellent and mind-boggling compilation. Just out or curiosity, is that manual or is there a computer program to do all those calculations?

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by gh
                            Originally posted by Jay Peterman
                            Disagree. No stats to hand, but I believe he ran 10.09 as a junior. And his 10.06 in London was very, very real. I'll leave it to others to interpret that race, but IMHO that was worth sub-10.
                            You're free to so analyze, and if the "feeling" is there for it to be worth sub-10, allow me the liberty to analyze the 9.96 and get the "feeling" that it's worth a supra-10!

                            There's no end of Junior sprinters who should have done bigger things but didn't. All I'm asking is to look at the 9.96 year in its totality and tell me you don't think there's something just way wack about that mark.
                            Well, your stats back you up, and I wasn't aware of any wackiness about the 9.96.

                            84 obviously wasn't his best year - maybe unlucky enough to peak between Olympics?

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                            • #15
                              I know this thread is very old, but perhaps Gatlin now has the best 100/200 same day combo, 29.48, 9.77 + 19.71. Has anyone else done better since this thread was originally posted in 2006? I don't think Bolt, Blake, Gay and Powell have done a same day combo.

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