Where are the top-30 men's cross teams racing this weekend

[dl]

Okay, I'm taking this cross fandom thing too far. I was trying to figure this out for my own edification, but since I did the legword I figured I'd pass along the info. Here's where the top-30 teams in the latest poll will be racing (or not) this weekend:

Roy Griak Invitational
2 Wisconsin (1) GL  463 2
5 Oregon W 414 5
10-tie Eastern Michigan  GL 311 10-tie
12 BYU M 295 12
15 Providence NE 239 16
19 Portland  W 127 28-tie
23 Colorado State    M 108 23
25 Minnesota MW 93 19
26 Iowa MW 71 26-tie
28 Texas SC 41 24

Stanford Invitational
1 Stanford (15)   W 479 1
24 Cal Poly San Luis Obispo  W 106 20

Great American Cross Country Festival
3 Northern Arizona  M 437 4
6 Michigan  GL 401  7
9 Central Michigan GL 327 8
10-tie Villanova  MA 311 10-tie
14 North Carolina State  SE 285 14 
18 William & Mary  SE 185 15
20-tie Ohio State   GL 120 26-tie
22 Butler GL 117 22
27  Duke SE 66 --
30 Texas A&M SC 31  --

Paddy Doyle Challenge of Champions (Vanny, hosted byIona)
8 Iona College NE 342 9

George Wahington Invite:
13 Georgetown MA 288 13

Central Collegiates (Three Rivers, Michigan)
17 Notre Dame GL 190 18

Not racing:
4 Arkansas SC 425 3 (at Cowboy Jamorbee next weekend)
7 Colorado M 391 6 (host Rocky Mountain Shootout next weekend)
16 Indiana GL 230 17 (next week at Murray Keatinge Invite in Maine)
20-tie Oklahoma State MW 120 25  (host Cowboy Jamorbee next weekend)
29 Air Force M  33 --

[Guest]

Re: Where are the top-30 men's cross teams racing this weeke

Man, the Stanford Invite has really dropped off in the past half dozen years. The top Pac-10 teams don't even come even more. I think UCLA and Cal are coming, but what about Arizona? I used to love watching Giusto, Keino, Marc Davis and others race there. Or am I confusing the Invite with Pac 10s?

[Guest]

Re: Where are the top-30 men's cross teams racing this weeke

No, you're not having acid flashbacks. The Cats used to come to the Invite. Back in the 80's all kinds of teams used to come out (even when the race was a 10K and ran the brutal big hill twice).

I remember watching Clemson, NC State, Arkansas (yes!) and other top teams. Bummer that they don't come out anymore.

[Guest]

Re: Where are the top-30 men's cross teams racing this weeke

Hey, Arkansas's and Wisconsin's women still come out. In recent years so have BYU.

[Guest]

Re: Where are the top-30 men's cross teams racing this weeke

I guess teams don't wanna come out and get beat up on by Stanford so early in the season.

[dl]

Re: Where are the top-30 men's cross teams racing this weeke

I'd say the bigger reason why top teams down come out to the Farm anymore (unfortunately, it's an amazingly beautiful place to race) is the need for opportunities to beat other top teams head to head for at-large qualifying points.

Going head to head with Griak (aka the other Pre-Nats) doesn't help. Cal Poly SLO was lucky in '99 when Alabama came out (when Tim Broe won, the year before Kimani transferred), because The Tide were an auto-qualifier that year, which helped the Mustangs make nasties at Indiana.

At least the Great American meet is taking away some of the teams from Griak and spreading out the talent a bit.

[Guest]

Re: Where are the top-30 men's cross teams racing this weeke

Can't blame collegiate teams for going to Great American. Great chance to run in front of a lot of top high school kids.

Stanford is a great HS meet too, but mostly California, with a few Oregon and Nevada schools.

[dl]

Re: Where are the top-30 men's cross teams racing this weeke

Oops! Broe didn't win the Stanford Invite in '99. I remember him leading most of the way, but it was Arizona's Micheil Jones (who was training half-heartedly with the Farm Team a few years ago, but has now given up the ghost) who ended up winning.

[billthedog]

Re: Where are the top-30 men's cross teams racing this weeke

I'm sorry to be ignorant and stupid, but what do the figures and letters mean?

[Guest]

Re: Where are the top-30 men's cross teams racing this weeke

Yeah, I give up too!

[dl]

Re: Where are the top-30 men's cross teams racing this weeke

Sorry, the first number, in front of each team, is their current ranking. The letters are their region, and the final number was their ranking in the previous poll.

[Guest]

Re: Where are the top-30 men's cross teams racing this weeke

Swami says..... Stanford will win the Stanford Invite!

[Guest]

Re: Where are the top-30 men's cross teams racing this weeke

Uhhhh, we will be seeing the women's breakdown soon, right?

[dl]

Re: Where are the top-30 men's cross teams racing this weeke

Sorry, but I'm afraid I burned up all my "free" time (and more) on this simple project. Now I've really gotta work.

[dl]

Re: Where are the top-30 men's cross teams racing this weeke

Here's part of Mike Scott's excellent analysis of the women's poll. He lists who's racing where:

Next Weekend:  The September 26-27 weekend marks the kick-off of the serious cross country season.
 
Great American (9/26) -- Brigham Young, Campbell, Coastal Carolina, Duke, Florida State, Grand Valley State, Liberty, North Carolina State, Northern Arizona, Texas A & M, New Mexico, North Carolina, North Carolina - Charlotte, Virginia, US Military Academy, William and Mary
 
Roy Griak (9/27) -- Arizona, Arizona State, Baylor, Boston College, Colorado State, Columbia, Indiana, Iowa State, Marquette, Michigan, Michigan State, Minnesota, Missouri, Montana, Nebraska, Northern Iowa, Northwestern, Penn State, Providence, Southern Utah, Texas Tech, Toledo, Utah State, Wake Forest, Wartburg (IA), Washington State, Weber State
 
Stanford (9/27) -- 4K & 6K races: Arkansas, Cal-Santa Barbara, Stanford, UCLA, Wisconsin
 
Iona Meet of Champions (9/27) -- Auburn, Boston U, Brown, Cornell, Dartmouth, Rhode Island, Yale