Announcement

Collapse
No announcement yet.

What's the best HS record for boys?

Collapse

Unconfigured Ad Widget

Collapse
X
 
  • Filter
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts

  • What's the best HS record for boys?

    And when will it be broken?

  • #2
    Re: What's the best HS record for boys?

    Probably the easiest question since, "Who's buried in Grant's Tomb ?".

    Michael Carter
    Shot Put 81'0"

    Not only the best HS boys record, the best record of ANY TYPE in Track & Field... including Michael Johnson's 19.32 or even any of the Chinese women's WR's.

    Anyone disagree ?

    Comment


    • #3
      Re: What's the best HS record for boys?

      Michael Carter's effort, if legitimate, is the greatest single performance in the history of track and field. I often wonder if everything was legit-- shot weighed correctly, etc.

      Comment


      • #4
        Re: What's the best HS record for boys?

        BTW< it was 81'3", not 81'0".

        Comment


        • #5
          Re: What's the best HS record for boys?

          That's the first time I have ever heard anyone question Carter's mark. Where did that come from?

          Comment


          • #6
            Re: What's the best HS record for boys?

            I remember when Michael Carter set his record,
            Track and Field News reported it thusly:

            "81' 3 1/2": CARTER NOT HUMAN"

            Comment


            • #7
              Re: What's the best HS record for boys?

              I also remember a report in T&FN the previous edition to the record stating that Michael threw 70'+ and the shot was sliding off the side of his hand. He and his coach mentioned that 70' was the tip of the iceberg once they got that corrected. I thought, "Yea, right. What's the guy going to do, throw 78'?" Apparently they were on to something. Awesome achievement!

              Comment


              • #8
                Re: What's the best HS record for boys?

                The reason I might question Michael Carter's mark is because I know what can happen in shot put competitions. I was a former shot putter many moons ago (62'6 collegiate PR). Over my years I saw many light shots slip into competition. I am not saying this did happen-- only that it CAN happen.

                I believe Carter's PR was about 74' going into the competition at the Golden West meet. On his second to last throw he went about 77' and then on his last, he hit the 81'3. This is an incredible improvement for any thrower. Not impossible-- but astonishing.

                What makes me think he could have thrown that far is that he PRed at 67'9 with the 16lb. shot, which is roughly equal to 77'9 with the 12 lb. Which puts him in that ballpark.

                So I don't know. It is just hard to fathom 81'3 I guess.

                Comment


                • #9
                  Re: What's the best HS record for boys?

                  One mark I've always wondered about is Allesandro Andrei's 75'2". I just don't know if that distance was (legally) possible for that thrower.

                  The last mark I'm not sure of is Robert Emmiyan's 29'1" in the LJ.

                  I'm not claiming to know anything about these performances, only wondering if they are genuine or not.

                  Comment


                  • #10
                    Re: What's the best HS record for boys?

                    what about gerry lindgrens 13.44 in 1964, thats 39 years ago. how long will that last? over 50 years possibly.

                    Comment


                    • #11
                      Re: What's the best HS record for boys?

                      The last mark I'm not sure of is
                      >Robert Emmiyan's 29'1" in the LJ.

                      I'm not
                      >claiming to know anything about these
                      >performances, only wondering if they are genuine
                      >or not.

                      Emmiyan jumped 8.86m (29ft 1in)in Tsakhkadzor on 22nd May 1987.

                      He had the help of +1.85m/s(+1.9m/s rounded-up) following wind.

                      However, he did have a number of other great jumps to back up this distance.

                      He jumped 8.61m(-0.3m/s) in 1986 (in Moscow) and also some other 8.50m,8.40m & 8.30m jumps.

                      So he was no stranger to long distances.

                      But his 8.86m seemed to be fluke...

                      Comment


                      • #12
                        Re: What's the best HS record for boys?

                        >One mark I've always wondered about is Allesandro
                        >Andrei's 75'2". I just don't know if that
                        >distance was (legally) possible for that
                        >thrower.

                        The last mark I'm not sure of is
                        >Robert Emmiyan's 29'1" in the LJ.

                        I'm not
                        >claiming to know anything about these
                        >performances, only wondering if they are genuine
                        >or not.>>

                        A world-class athlete who was at the Andrei meet sent us a photo which he said was taken that day (we have no way of verifying) in which the shot ring appears to be sitting on a mound of dirt significantly higher than the landing area.

                        Emmiyan's mark, in addition to having almost-maximal wind was also at over 1000m of altitude, so gets significant aid there as well.

                        Both marks remain on the fringe of respectability for many statisticians, but both of the athletes in question were clearly among the best in the world to begin with, so they can't be written off as complete frauds.

                        Comment


                        • #13
                          Re: What's the best HS record for boys?

                          >what about gerry lindgrens 13.44 in 1964, thats
                          >39 years ago. how long will that last? over 50
                          >years possibly.

                          Exaggerating a bit here but barefoot Kenyans do it on dirt tracks every summer. You're probably right as far as when a yank will do it though.

                          Comment


                          • #14
                            Re: What's the best HS record for boys?

                            >what about gerry lindgrens 13.44 in 1964, thats
                            >39 years ago. how long will that last? over 50
                            >years possibly.

                            And I know it's the whole 4th year vs 5th year thing but Bruce Kidd went 13:43.6 in 1962. 52 years before you figure the next yank will do it and...oh...2 years before GL.

                            Comment


                            • #15
                              Re: What's the best HS record for boys?

                              the 5k record will fall soon enough. Chapa's
                              10k record will last much longer. has anyone come anywhere near thar record in the past 15 years?

                              Comment

                              Working...
                              X