Saturday 16:50: WAF m100 (last event 1st day)

[26mi235]

As long as starters insist on shooting the gun 0.000001 (or sometimes -0.00001) seconds after they THINK everyone has gotten into a still set position, the anticipation possibility seems as likely as any.

Since the starter is REACTING to the athletes arriving at the Set position, clearly the gun can NOT go off any sooner than .100 sec AFTER that, or it would clearly be a 'false start' on the starter.

Not really. He is not "reacting" to the runners moving into position, which is similar to the reason why hand times need an increment of 0.24 to transform them into something approximately the same (unbiased) at FAT. You react to the gun but can fully anticipate them crossing the line.

[BisonHurdler]

As long as starters insist on shooting the gun 0.000001 (or sometimes -0.00001) seconds after they THINK everyone has gotten into a still set position, the anticipation possibility seems as likely as any.

Since the starter is REACTING to the athletes arriving at the Set position, clearly the gun can NOT go off any sooner than .100 sec AFTER that, or it would clearly be a 'false start' on the starter.

Not really. He is not "reacting" to the runners moving into position, which is similar to the reason why hand times need an increment of 0.24 to transform them into something approximately the same (unbiased) at FAT. You react to the gun but can fully anticipate them crossing the line.

Methinks tafnut's post blew right over your head.

[eldrick]

Well ... like he said the press conference yesterday ... Powell is learning to run through the line.

There are reports on other mesasge board that Powell had some soreness and he did just enough to win.

Seems plausible.

He runs next week at the world cup.

he ran just over 0.1s slower than his fastest ever basic time

doesn't sound like any soreness worth mentioning can allow you to do that

[La_Spigola_Loca]

it would clearly be a 'false start' on the starter.

Which was my point.

Methinks tafnut's post blew right over your head.

I think 26mi235 was spot-on; the starter isn't "reacting" to the "unexpected" arrival of the athletes to the set position; he is fully anticipating it. And sometime (all too often, as of late) his light finger on the trigger would start the athletes too soon. Just ask Safa Powell.

[BisonHurdler]

it would clearly be a 'false start' on the starter.

Which was my point.

Methinks tafnut's post blew right over your head.

I think 26mi235 was spot-on; the starter isn't "reacting" to the "unexpected" arrival of the athletes to the set position; he is fully anticipating it. And sometime (all too often, as of late) his light finger on the trigger would start the athletes too soon. Just ask Safa Powell.

Um . . . unless my brain is still experiencing residual fried-ness from the MCAT a few weeks ago, I'm pretty sure tafnut's post was largely tongue-in-cheek (which should be evidenced by the "serious" nature of his reply to the intentionally absurd numbers you listed). . . which certainly appears to have been missed by 26, as well as you perhaps . . .

[tafnut]

I'm pretty sure tafnut's post was largely tongue-in-cheek (which should be evidenced by the "serious" nature of his reply to the intentionally absurd numbers you listed).

True dat :-)


(which is why we need the emotithingies back for Tone Discernment!)

[Grazerism]

Crawford raised his hand to interrupt the first attempt to start, and was given an official false start. (I've never seen this before. Is this a new rule?) So the whole field had to be cautious for the "2nd" start. Pretty amazing to then get 3 times 9.92 or lower!

[La_Spigola_Loca]

Well ... like he said the press conference yesterday ... Powell is learning to run through the line.

This picture had me in stitches.

It seems like Powell is lookling wearily to his left, thinking, "eh, I better pretend to be leaning".... :roll:

[bad hammy]

This picture had me in stitches.

That's the first picture I've seen of the meet. The joint looks half empty. What was capacity/attendance??

[La_Spigola_Loca]

I doubt they will publish the numbers- the place looks deserted!

[26mi235]

I'm pretty sure tafnut's post was largely tongue-in-cheek (which should be evidenced by the "serious" nature of his reply to the intentionally absurd numbers you listed).

True dat :-)


(which is why we need the emotithingies back for Tone Discernment!)

I thought that was tafnut's idea in the post, I just decided to take another element of it to lead back to a discussion that ensued after the very scattered start several meets back. I did not specifically link to that discussion, but La_Spigola_Loca took it and did more with it than I did.

[knockout]

I doubt they will publish the numbers- the place looks deserted!

http://today.reuters.com/news/articlene ... ived=False

28000 watched Gay apparently

[La_Spigola_Loca]

28000 watched Gay apparently

Which means bad hammy has a very dexterous/discerning eye:

The joint looks half empty.

Capacity of the Gottlieb Daimler: 55986 (source).

[wineturtle]

Those reaction times are,..., well they are awfully quick. Is the 0.10 calibration now in need of revision or are they anticipating? There were at least three marks today under 0.11 (Liu had the other at 0.108).

http://mb.trackandfieldnews.com/discuss ... ing+blocks

Did I miss the it's fixed thread??

With the flinch and you're toast rule more shooters are aware of the cost to the meet if he DQ's a $50 grand fee runner so he goes "SET" and as soon as most upward movement is calm -off they go.I guess the guys who use a "loaded" start are unhappy and the rollers smile a bit.

[Infama]

Well ... like he said the press conference yesterday ... Powell is learning to run through the line.

There are reports on other mesasge board that Powell had some soreness and he did just enough to win.

Seems plausible.

He runs next week at the world cup.

he ran just over 0.1s slower than his fastest ever basic time

doesn't sound like any soreness worth mentioning can allow you to do that

Not sure if I understood you correctly. here are the basic times in 2006 for Asafa...

Basic Times
AP 2006 Where
1 9.83 Zurich
2 9.83 Berlin
3 9.85 Gateshead
4 9.86 Paris
5 9.87 Stockholm
6 9.88 Roma
7 9.88 London
8 9.92 Kingston
9 9.93 Oslo
10 9.94 Stuttgart

Top 5 Avg 9.848

Top 10 Avg 9.879