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    Who was the oldest OT T&F qualifier?

  • #2
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    Almost certainly somebody from something contested on the road, underscoring the U.S.'s ongoing feeble nature in those events. Probably should be a badge of shame, not anything to be proud of.

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    • #3
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      >Almost certainly somebody from something
      >contested on the road, underscoring the U.S.'s
      >ongoing feeble nature in those events. Probably
      >should be a badge of shame, not anything to be
      >proud of.

      My guess would be that marathoner/walker Al Oerter.

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      • #4
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        This thread is on both forums! Over there, there is a 55 year-old WALKER in the OT. I believe Oerter was 50 on his last go-round. At the masters meets I go to, there sure seems to be lots more 'national class' walk results than in my hurdling and jumping events. But I guess I should be happy that I have those all those events to myself in the 50+ category. I medal every time (second may be last, but it's still a silver). [and yes, that's NOT funny]

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        • #5
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          >This thread is on both forums! Over there, there
          >is a 55 year-old WALKER in the OT. I believe
          >Oerter was 50 on his last go-round. At the
          >masters meets I go to, there sure seems to be
          >lots more 'national class' walk results than in
          >my hurdling and jumping events. But I guess I
          >should be happy that I have those all those
          >events to myself in the 50+ category. I medal
          >every time (second may be last, but it's still a
          >silver). [and yes, that's NOT funny]

          How weak/strong are the qualifying marks to get into the walk trials compared to the throws?

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          • #6
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            >How weak/strong are the qualifying
            >marks to get into the walk trials compared to the throws?>>

            Forget the throws, since looking at percent difference deals with ever-bigger marks as opposed to ever smaller one. Let's look at a running event.

            To get in the 50, like this ancient dude is, he had to walk 4:45:00, which is roughly 132% of the world record. If you take 132% of the men's 100 record, you could get into the Trials running 12.91. In other words, junior-high girl stuff.

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            • #7
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              >To get in the 50, like this
              >ancient dude is, he had to walk 4:45:00, which is
              >roughly 132% of the world record. If you take
              >132% of the men's 100 record, you could get into
              >the Trials running 12.91. In other words,
              >junior-high girl stuff.

              That's what I thought. Oerter on the other hand was still world class until he was 49??.

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              • #8
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                marion Irvine was 54 (2:5l:01 marathon in '83 - 2:52:02 in '84 OTr) Oerter was 43 at '80 OT.
                Ed Burke was 44 (243'11 HT, '84) Petranoff 42 at '00 Trials. If 2:l7:02(?) qualified, Steve Plasencia was 43 for '00 Trials.

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                • #9
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                  Oerter was 47 at the time of the 1984 Olympic Trials, at which he did not compete due to injury. Less than a year earlier (Fall '83), he had thrown 245' in a demo session. Not bad!

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                  • #10
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                    >Oerter was 47 at the time of the 1984 Olympic
                    >Trials, at which he did not compete due to
                    >injury. Less than a year earlier (Fall '83), he
                    >had thrown 245' in a demo session. Not bad!

                    Did he qualify notwithstanding the fact that he didn't compete? That was really the question.

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                    • #11
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                      The Marathon Trials come to mind. Was the Marathon Running Nun an OT Qualifyer?

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                      • #12
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                        Have you seen the hairline? Obvious answer--in an attempt to get him into all threads!--is Alan Webb.

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                        • #13
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                          I don't have access to the entries for the '84 OT, but I'd bet the farm he'd (Oerter) already had a qualifying mark from the previous year. I'll go back to my old TFN issues to confirm this. Whether he went ahead and submitted his entry to the old TAC is another matter.

                          Kurt

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                          • #14
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                            Oerter did qualify with 222'9 (age 47) in '83. Didn't compete in '84, at least not in Trials. Threw 211'3 at small meet in '85, just 4 days before 49th birthday. 204'9 in '86, 30 years after first Olympic gold (and almost 20' farther)

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