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  • #61
    Re: Unacceptable Behavior

    Wow. That was nice. Good on you. Sometimes we all need to take a few moments, to think about what we are writing, not to be too quick on the post key, and far quicker on the delete key.
    I do enjoy most of the posts on the Board, and respect many of the opinions. They are heartfelt and generally form well supported arguments.

    And again, thanks to the TFN group for providing this forum to us tracksters. Policing a board is no fun. Hats off to GH and BH.
    ML, please don't pull your punches, just word them differently.
    Everyone - read the latest Spivey post and go for a run!!!

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    • #62
      Re: Unacceptable Behavior

      Rodney King had it right: "Can't we all just get along?"

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      • #63
        Re: Unacceptable Behavior

        Bravo Mr. Lewis for your apology. Way to step up.

        Now lets get back to some healthy T&F debating.

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        • #64
          Re: Unacceptable Behavior

          Sorry to be so long in getting back to this thread; please don't read anything into how long it took me to respond after Michael's post, other than my trying to say afloat in all the kaka that's inundating the track world these days at the same time as the World Rankings are being formulated.

          Michael, I have no problem with being called "ignoramus" or "sleazeball." As they say, I've been called worse. But thanks for that pullback on your part.

          One thing arising from all this is the need for everyone to realize that an editor's job--be it for print or for in heping to keep the board running smoothly--is largely one of journalistic triage: there's a limited amount of resources (time/space/energy) available, and explaining every move we make simply isn't feasible.

          So my reaction to "controversial" material is likely to fall into one of three categories: simply yank it, caution that the direction must be changed, simply walk away from it.

          This last is the toughest for people to understand I guess; when somebody simply drops out of the "debate." But this board is not a paid service where people can expect to get their money's worth; where after they have their 30 seconds I'm supposed to contribute 30 seconds and then it's there turn again, so on ad infinitum. If I don't feel I can bring anything more to a conversation (and there's no reason eith to yank the thread or say the thread should stop) then walking away unannounced is what I'll do.

          As Ben noted earlier, there are about 25,000 posts on the board and he has read about 98% of them. I've probably read 125% of them, because I usually try to scan a whole thread (well, non-Webb ones :-) before I respond. So the details of our contretemps regarding Fuchs are lost in the mists of time.

          As noted at the very top, if you feel there is more to be said on this topic, start again. I'll certainly stipulate that at one point she said something about having used drugs in her athletic days. I don't recall ever disputing that, which is pretty much common knowledge. And I'm well acquainted with the stance that Franke and his wife take on the whole subject. So where do you want to go from here.

          garry

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          • #65
            Re: Unacceptable Behavior

            And to put words in gh's mouth, ML, you're welcome to return, as this poster hopes you will.

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            • #66
              Re: Unacceptable Behavior

              All's well (or is it?). Michael, start a new thread so we know you are back home where you belong!
              "A beautiful theory killed by an ugly fact."
              by Thomas Henry Huxley

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              • #67
                Re: Unacceptable Behavior

                Thanks Gary for the reply. I never doubted you guys were busy but 25,000 posts is a lot, and I would just prefer to leave the Fuchs thing at that. We have a different recollection of events and I don't wish to push the point anymore. May we leave it at that and just shake hands?

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                • #68
                  Re: Unacceptable Behavior

                  "All's well (or is it?). Michael, start a new thread so we know you are back home where you belong!"

                  I'm still alive and well and not getting out of this life that easily I'm afraid Should I get a green light from Gary Hill I will consider myself officially reprieved.

                  Gary, after combing through material still on the board dating around Sept 20 I can see references I made to what I thought was disagreement from you re Fuchs. Something got yanked somewhere, a post where I started out saying something like this: "One thing I have learned on this board is I won't assume anything unless I have thoroughly researched it, regardless of how commonly known I may think it is, ...." (blah blah black sheep) Maybe I misunderstood something you said. If I did, I apologize further, I just honestly don't know without knowing exactly what was on the board, and frankly, does anyone really care anymore? I'm not perfect and I'm still learning, probably goes for the rest of the human race too.

                  So Happy Hallowe'en everyone and I will check in here next week sometime to see what's afloat.

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                  • #69
                    Re: Unacceptable Behavior

                    and it would help if you spelled his name correctly - 'Garry' :-)

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