New Threat To JW 2008???

[proofs in the pudd'in]

Lukas Hulett 18 yrs old. 46.86 in 2006. Looks big and strong at 6'3 and 190

Here is a recent article. http://www.omaha.com/index.php?u_pg=528 ... id=2316631

Maybe?

[tafnut]

Re: New Threat To JW 2008???

Maybe?

In a word: no. That kind of talent is all over the NCAA.

[proofs in the pudd'in]

Re: New Threat To JW 2008???

Maybe?

In a word: no. That kind of talent is all over the NCAA.

Yes your right but no one thought JW would be were he is at when he ran 46.87 at 17 yrs old either. Plus you are always a tough nut to crack.

[26mi235]

Re: New Threat To JW 2008???

[quote=proofs in the pudd'in]

Maybe?

In a word: no. That kind of talent is all over the NCAA.

Yes your right but no one thought JW would be were he is at when he ran 46.87 at 17 yrs old either. Plus you are always a tough nut to crack.[/quote:h9rzgchs]

You taking the statistical question backward. JW was one of 20 or so that made the grade from the promising 18 year old to Champion (he also had good credentials in the 200 and 400 and was a thin runner that was goinog to improve in part by gaining strength. Since LH has the big/strong part already there is a little less room for improvement. Not to say that it won't happen, just that the odds are a little bit long. After all, look at the ~20-year olds that were in the 44s last year.

[Jacksf]

It's impossible to predict how any HSer is going to do as they develop.
We've seen many HS phenoms never approach their high school times again, and we've seen guys who were absolute nobodys in HS, tear it up in college.
The true answer is 'who knows?'

However, I do understand that it is fun to play this type of prediction game!

[tandfman]

It's impossible to predict how any HSer is going to do as they develop.
We've seen many HS phenoms never approach their high school times again

True. And I think the men's 400 has produced more of its share of HS phenoms who disappointed after HS.

[guru]

Many valid points made here, but one critical difference is this:

He's not running under Clyde Hart.

[nctrackfan]

Time and history are JW's biggest threats. Not many men have defended their 400m titles in the Olympics.

About the young man in the article, it is hard to extrapolate what he will run in 2 years. Some 18 year olds are in the body of a 24 year old. Then there are some men who keep growing into their early 20's.

[Jacksf]

It's impossible to predict how any HSer is going to do as they develop.
We've seen many HS phenoms never approach their high school times again

True. And I think the men's 400 has produced more of its share of HS phenoms who disappointed after HS.

Here's the All time HS top 5 for 400m...only one of them made it at the senior level.

U.S. ALL-TIME BOYS 400M PERFORMER LIST
44.69 -Darrell Robinson (Wilson, Tacoma, WA) 1982
45.01 -Jerome Young (Prince Tech, Hartford, CT) 1995
45.09 -Henry Thomas (Hawthorne, CA) 1985
45.14 **Obea Moore (Muir, Pasadena, CA) 1995
45.17 *William Reed (Central, Philadelphia, PA) 1987

[Trackshark]

This can happen to many young athletes. There was a freshman out of Bowling Green back in 2000 named Zerian Peterson who ran in the mid-46 range. It's all about how you maintain and develop that level of fitness during your junior and senior seasons....and then make the leap to the professional level. If you don't think that's difficult, just ask Adam Steele.

[tandfman]

Here's the All time HS top 5 for 400m...only one of them made it at the senior level.

U.S. ALL-TIME BOYS 400M PERFORMER LIST
44.69 -Darrell Robinson (Wilson, Tacoma, WA) 1982
45.01 -Jerome Young (Prince Tech, Hartford, CT) 1995
45.09 -Henry Thomas (Hawthorne, CA) 1985
45.14 **Obea Moore (Muir, Pasadena, CA) 1995
45.17 *William Reed (Central, Philadelphia, PA) 1987

Robinson and Young were both USA Senior National Champions.

[richxx87]

JW will not lose in '08

I'm going out on a limb here and saying that JW will dominate at least through 2008.

There are only two things that could prevent that, the injury bug OR continued improvement by a 19-year-old named LaShawn; he of the 44.14 credentials.

[hjumper33]

It seems like a lot of people want to crown a next jeremy wariner. We already have one, and hes darn good. It shocks me that there is more talk about who is going to bring him down than when he is going to run a 43 low. In just over a week he will turn 23, and wasnt MJ something like 32 or 33 when he won his last olympic gold? LaShawn is darn good, and there is a good possibility that running 44.0 might be worth a bronze medal in bejing, if that.

[AS]

Hullett doesn't crack the top 12 tips for NCAA indoors 400m from Trackwire:

http://www.trackshark.com/trackwire/d12men070123.pdf

If you want to keep an eye on a 400m prospect look no further than Aussie youngster Kurt Mulcahy. Still 17 (dob 12 May 1989), he's improved from 47.24 to 46.03 already in this Australian season, and it's early days still. He's got decent speed: 10.68 (10.45w), 21.07 (20.94w), and is on the scrawny side...

[just4fun]

any lagerald betters fans out there?