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  • Re: Running a 3:49.80 mile

    Jim's follow-up post was even more insightful than the original. The point on mileage/injury is well taken. There have been countless athletes with remarkable endurance from tremendous base miles and trying to keep the mileage high when the fast stuff starts, who were on the side-lines when the racing started. Keep it conservative and planned.

    Also, the point of "floating" 57.5s is great. This is what El G. refers to as "finding rythm". Numerous repeats at seasonal goal race pace is better than simply ripping several 4s to feed the ego.

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    • Re: Running a 3:49.80 mile

      >Jim's follow-up post was even more insightful than the original. The point on
      >mileage/injury is well taken. There have been countless athletes with
      >remarkable endurance from tremendous base miles and trying to keep the mileage
      >high when the fast stuff starts, who were on the side-lines when the racing
      >started. Keep it conservative and planned.

      Yes, but in order to improve beyond simple physical maturation (which plateaus in the twenties) you DO need to increase the training stimulus, both volume and intensity. Volume must come first (not in big chunks, but conservatively over the span of several years) in the off season, when the stress of intensity work is little to non-existent. Then the mileage/volume stress drops as intensity stress is added.

      [You obviously had the intensity...but where's the gradual increase in volume?]

      Pre-season volume is what helps AVOID injury later when the intensity is applied.

      Speaking in general terms, an athlete saying they couldn't do higher volume because of the intensity stress is mixing apples and oranges. [If they had, it would be almost a guarantee of getting injured!]

      Some athletes--particularly milers--have trouble psychologically if they don't constantly "feel" fast. But sadly, if it is being done correctly, there NEEDS to be a time when you feel slow. It passes and you end up faster than ever because of the increased stamina, but a lot of athletes get scared it is "gone for good" when they feel slow during the mileage phase of training.

      Mr. Spivey, you are a coach. Don't your athletes do off-season basework, aiming for a CONSERVATIVE and GRADUAL 10-15% volume increase? Don't they then average slightly higher overall and per week mileage throughout the year (which builds up year after year)? If not, what do you have them do? Honest question.

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        >Ahhh, maybe journalist don't dig as deep b/c people aren't as interested and
        >news is too ever changing and of the moment...someone can dig, dig, dig all
        >they want, but by the time a good lead becomes a good story it's old news in
        >todays "information now" world...


        Most younger people these days want a more balanced life no matter what field they are in. Nothing wrong with that but the non family stuff can't be performed at at the same level as it has been done in the past. Pretty simple really.

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          >Mr. Spivey, you are a coach. Don't your athletes do off-season
          >basework, aiming for a CONSERVATIVE and GRADUAL 10-15% volume increase? Don't
          >they then average slightly higher overall and per week mileage throughout the
          >year (which builds up year after year)? If not, what do you have them do?
          >Honest question.

          Still waiting. Surely this can't be that tough a question.

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          • Re: Running a 3:49.80 mile

            >>Mr. Spivey, you are a coach. Don't your athletes do off-season
            >basework,
            >aiming for a CONSERVATIVE and GRADUAL 10-15% volume increase? Don't
            >they then
            >average slightly higher overall and per week mileage throughout the
            >year
            >(which builds up year after year)? If not, what do you have them do?
            >Honest
            >question.

            >Still waiting. Surely this can't be that tough >a question.



            Now that the Worlds are done, perhaps Coach Spivey will have the time to answer this honestly-asked question rising from his previous comments regarding training.

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