Penn Boring? I Don't Think So.

[Halfmiler2]

Of course, Center City includes an historic district including Independence Hall where the Declaration of Independence was enacted and where the Liberty Bell still resides.

The Art Museum (where Rocky ran up the steps) is next to the Skuykill River and Boathouse Row which is a nice place to jog or walk.

Franklin Field itself is on the other side of the Skuykill River at the edge of "West Philadelphia" and the University of Pennsylvania campus. The University Museum (known for its collection of mummies) is across the street from Franklin Field. If you haven't guessed, Ben Franklin founded the University.

[az2004]

there have been about 110 or so murders in philadelphia so far this year...the vast majority is back on back inner city murder, some drug related....

most places a visitors would do is safe....

although you do get gangs of kids roaming penn late at night looking for people to rob.....

tons of museums , this year, king tuts stuff was in town, the art museum, rodin....you can do valley forge or hit bucks county, easy train ride from 30th street...

lots of good restaurants...

try...

http://www.thewaterworksrestaurant.com/main.cfm

excellent for the wife or girlfriend of anyone who doesn't want to go to the stadium .....

great food, great view

[malmo]

there have been about 110 or so murders in philadelphia so far this year...the vast majority is back on back inner city murder, some drug related....

most places a visitors would do is safe....

although you do get gangs of kids roaming penn late at night looking for people to rob.....

Philly is one of the easiest cities for a visitor to take the wrong exit ramp, and end up exactly where you shouldn't be with no idea how to get back to where you should. Philly in 2007 is a terrible place.

[az2004]

put the stats don't show any dead visitors.....

it's all about black kids killing black kids....

if people are afraid of big cities, don't go into them....

look at the schools, in the city eack kid gets 10k spent on them per year...

in the suburbs it's 20k.....those that can afford it get their kids good educations....the rest are forgetten...

the no kid left behind garbage is garbage.... it ain't true

[bad hammy]

it's all about black kids killing black kids....

That's pretty much the story here in SF/Oakland too.

[gh]

So, hamster, how was that 3.0 you East Bay guys had a few minutes ago?

[az2004]

getting back to track...

all the news going to long beach poly....

BUT a little love to ELEANOR ROOSEVELT...

won the girls hs 4X8 beating holmwood tech by .04 on friday.....

exciting race...

then they came back to win the 4X4 over all the jamaicans and long beach poly.....

[bad hammy]

So, hamster, how was that 3.0 you East Bay guys had a few minutes ago?

I was out driving around - didn't even feel one.

Edit: Actually, that happened while I was sitting at my desk - still didn't feel a thing.

[tandfman]

Philly in 2007 is a terrible place.

Nonsense!

[ed gee]

In 2006, a high schooler in town for the relays was a passenger in a car that bumped another car (resulting in no visible damage), they were followed and he was shot in the neck, resulting in tetraplegia. He was cared for by a former colleague of mine at Jefferson University Hospital and ultimately died a few months ago.

There have been a least 140 murders in Philadelphia this year and many more that have survived GSWs. My inpatient service currently has several patients with gun shot wounds, one was shot eleven times.

Daily, I see patients that happened to "feel perfectly safe," many from the areas you mentioned. In the last week, there have been moments when I did not feel comfortable alone in the hospital with patients, and certainly not walking from the Hospital of the University of Pennsylvania through campus to Presbyterian Hospital.

Last August, I found a dead body while running and a friend of mine has found two in the last three years. A former medical student that rotated with me was raped and killed while running a two mile loop from her apartment on a Sunday afternoon. People waiting for the bus 60 meters away heard her scream and did not report it for four days.

Philadelphia, including University and Center City, is not a safe place.

While there are undoubtedly dangerous areas of Philadelphia, in general, it is not at all a scary place to be. Unlike some US downtown areas I can think of, both Center City and the area of the University feel perfectly safe and I've never heard of anyone associated with the Relays having any trouble there.

[malmo]

Philly in 2007 is a terrible place.

Nonsense!

The facts say otherwise.